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i using vista.. i can say my computer is running hotter then xp
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Vista got murdered, What's the point of DX10 on Vista only, if Vista runs games like a retard at the Chucky Cheese.
XD ROFL!!!
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First of all, Kriegen, please fix the HyperLink.

The differences in frames between XP and Vista are mainly down to two conditions;

A: A typical Vista install has more background process running which will require access to CPU cycles and RAM.

B: Currently, AMD and Nvidia are still getting to grips with optimiseing their drivers to run under the new API.

The final release of Vista came out on the 30/01/2007 and I've been useing it none stop since a couple of weeks before as my local retailer was selling them early. When I first installed Vista I had a 7950GX2 and quite frankly games ran very poorly compared to XP. Prey and Quake 4 (OpenGL) would freeze at autosave points which required ALT tabbing to and from the desktop to fix. The quality of the visuals in games seemed to decrease aswell but worst of all, there was no SLi support at all! My 7950GX2 was crippled as only one of the G71's and half the memory was being used.

However, over the past few months drivers have improved substantially. SLi is now far more optimised in Nvidia's drivers, though it will still only work in OpenGL and DirectX 9 mode. Nvidia claim that there beta 158.43 drivers include DirectX 10 SLi support but when I tried the Lost planet demo I noticed no difference in average frames weather SLi was enabled or not. Hopefully this should be fixed by the time DirectX 10 games are actually released. Aside from the, the only problem I've had is getting a high score on 3DMark01SE as there is no SLi support under DirectX 8 mode. This isn't all that bad as a single modern mid range card should be able to render damn near any DirectX 8 based game anyway.

One thing I have noticed is that alot of people in this thread only have XP listed in their system specs. Either everyone doesn't keep there systems up to date or they're making statements about an operating system they haven't even tried for themselves. I've been through all of Vista teething problems and am glad I weathered the storm. UAC was a god send as I no longer have to disconnect from my netwrok to avoid that bloody WinFixer virus as UAC stops it from installing. Better security, a snappier desktop, practical RAM usage, improved networking features, Terminal Services Client (Business/Ultimate only) and some handy desktop features like SideBar and Snipping Tool have been worht the small 10FPS loss I'm getting today.
post #14 of 33
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Originally Posted by t4ct1c47 View Post
First of all, Kriegen, please fix the HyperLink.

The differences in frames between XP and Vista are mainly down to two conditions;

A: A typical Vista install has more background process running which will require access to CPU cycles and RAM.

B: Currently, AMD and Nvidia are still getting to grips with optimiseing their drivers to run under the new API.

The final release of Vista came out on the 30/01/2007 and I've been useing it none stop since a couple of weeks before as my local retailer was selling them early. When I first installed Vista I had a 7950GX2 and quite frankly games ran very poorly compared to XP. Prey and Quake 4 (OpenGL) would freeze at autosave points which required ALT tabbing to and from the desktop to fix. The quality of the visuals in games seemed to decrease aswell but worst of all, there was no SLi support at all! My 7950GX2 was crippled as only one of the G71's and half the memory was being used.

However, over the past few months drivers have improved substantially. SLi is now far more optimised in Nvidia's drivers, though it will still only work in OpenGL and DirectX 9 mode. Nvidia claim that there beta 158.43 drivers include DirectX 10 SLi support but when I tried the Lost planet demo I noticed no difference in average frames weather SLi was enabled or not. Hopefully this should be fixed by the time DirectX 10 games are actually released. Aside from the, the only problem I've had is getting a high score on 3DMark01SE as there is no SLi support under DirectX 8 mode. This isn't all that bad as a single modern mid range card should be able to render damn near any DirectX 8 based game anyway.

One thing I have noticed is that alot of people in this thread only have XP listed in their system specs. Either everyone doesn't keep there systems up to date or they're making statements about an operating system they haven't even tried for themselves. I've been through all of Vista teething problems and am glad I weathered the storm. UAC was a god send as I no longer have to disconnect from my netwrok to avoid that bloody WinFixer virus as UAC stops it from installing. Better security, a snappier desktop, practical RAM usage, improved networking features, Terminal Services Client (Business/Ultimate only) and some handy desktop features like SideBar and Snipping Tool have been worht the small 10FPS loss I'm getting today.
I agree, I am having issue with Vista but do not blame Microsoft or vista. I work allot with Microsoft and they assure me that Nvida is the slowest of all the other Co. (AMD is also having major troubles) that have been trying to develop stable drivers. He didn't to go into much detail as he was required to work with them on their issues and that he also didn't want to burn bridges. As far as I'm concern with these test...all these game were built on and patch after patch for DX9 so of course the fps as better. Look at the Lost Planet demo the fps between DX10 & 9 are like night & day but while playing in DX10 the whole overall experience is far superior…Lighting is amazing, detail is 75% better and how smooth the game runs. I have run both and man DX10 is way better. Right now I do a hot swap until drivers have been mastered and there is more than 1 game designed for 10….I will judge after Vista has been around and developed driver and games have been around.
post #15 of 33
I haven't done much gaming on Vista yet, but I can't wait to upgrade anyway. I've installed it on a few systems, and I have liked what I've seen so far.
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My games run smoother and have better FPS in Vista.
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no gamers like vista
i like vista

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My games run smoother and have better FPS in Vista.
as do mine
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uber means over..like over the fence. mhh, well its a dell so....eh what can you expect..... but vista dosnt seem so bad, i bet by the time i get all my money and build my dual core pc it will be all fixed up. xp wanst the best either when it came out, they needed a service pack to fix everything and still i get critical updates once a month..
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post #19 of 33
It such a small difference that is dosent realy matter.I have a 8600 wich isent the best card out an i use vista and i cant even tell the difference between 30FPS and a 100FPS as long as its over 30PFS your not goning to see much difference.SO i say would say go with vista and get you self ready for the future vista can only get better.IMO.
    
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Man Vista sucks. If it were a really good OS it would be faster than XP not slower.
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