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I have been able to get to 2.6GHz which is good for this processor but it is not stable enough for everyday use and I have also gotten it up to 2.65GHz for enough time to to a Super PI test (the computer shut down shortly after). I did a Super PI test of 1M and got a time of 36.513sec. @ 2.6GHz, but I would like to get this time alot faster if possible. I am currently running at 2.53GHz for everyday use with a ram speed of 180.7MHz (should be around 200MHz or higher but I can't get to this speed with the processor overclock that I am currently running). My ram has been up in the 215MHz range for a few days running stable but I got errors everytime I went to play BF2142. Does anyone know what the right combinations would be to get very good performance out of this processor and the 2 gigs of SuperTalent PC3200 DDR memory that I have? Thanks
    
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try to increasce the cpu voltage...but not too much!
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What would you say is too much? I have the option of 100mv and 200mv. I can add voltage to my memory too but I have found it too be very unstable if I do this.
    
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Does anyone have this similar setup that can help me?
    
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You didn't mention your temperatures. It could be that your CPU cooling isn't up to scratch, which causes the instability you're observing.

Also, are you doing stress testing as you're scaling up the CPU frequency?
    
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What about the htt link?

Also, what about the ampage on the 12v rail of your psu?
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post #7 of 12
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My CPU temperature is 36 degrees celcius with no load and with load it runs around 45 degrees celcius. My HTT speed is 460.18 MHz with a QS-rating of 4860+. I would like to see the QS rating up in the 5000+ range if possible, but I don't know if the ram and cpu combo is stopping me?
    
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Also, my 12volt rail is 12.352 if that is what you wanted to know.
    
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post #9 of 12
Your RAM seems to be the weak link here. Have you altered the timings any? It seems that the timings are too tight, but this is of course just a guess without me knowing your overclocking methodology.

Have you isolated each of your subsystems' maximum potential? (By subsystems, I mean your motherboard's maximum HT - "FSB" - frequency, your RAM's maximum frequency, and your CPU's maximum speed.)

Remember that the best functional, stable overclocks are a studied mix of these three subsystems' best. In other words, it's rare when all three subsystems' maximum potentials coincide (I personally think it's virtually impossible); you have to make some compromises somewhere.

Back on your RAM: I'd recommend running MemTest86+. I suspect there's a problem with your memory subsystem. Now it's a question of determining whether it's a problem with the DIMMs, the motherboard's DIMM slots, or perhaps a dodgy IMC (integrated memory controller) on your CPU.

Test what you can, and report back.

Hope this helps!
    
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I have done some testing and have got this information:

HTL speed-(601.67 MHz) on a Asus A8R32-MVP deluxe motherboard @ 2.2GHz processor stock speed @ 200.46 MHz Memory PC3200 stock speed. I think this is the max HTL speed for my ram and processor setup @ stock speed because @ 800 MHz HTL speed my computer hangs into the black screen.

Memory-@ 400MHz HTL speed with 2.2 GHz stock processor speed: 216MHz and 220.5MHz (system underclocked the ram timings @ 233MHz to the 220.5MHz so I figured this is probably the max memory overclock)
    
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