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Why, exactly, do you feel my head is hollow?
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Why, exactly, do you feel my head is hollow?
Just a quote from the movie, I think... (Fast times at RMH???)
    
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Just a quote from the movie, I think... (Fast times at RMH???)
Lol...Outstanding, I didn't even catch that. still lol.
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Pauldovi:

I was considering waiting for the x38 but why do you feel so adversely towards the p35 chip? All is hear is good reviews and happy campers?
I don't believe you will find too many benefits of P35 over your P5W DH. I think you will just be waisting your money. P35 may be good, but it is nothing special.

X38 may have SLI support. It will have 2 x PCI Express 2.0 16x slots.

What does P35 have that is so much better than 975X / 965P?
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I don't believe you will find too many benefits of P35 over your P5W DH. I think you will just be waisting your money. P35 may be good, but it is nothing special.

X38 may have SLI support. It will have 2 x PCI Express 2.0 16x slots.

What does P35 have that is so much better than 975X / 965P?
Pauldovi: Thank you for the input. My p5w, unfortunately, handles ram badly. Best I've been able to get out of the stuff in sig is pc2 7100 at like 5 6 6 18 timings and something like 2.2 volts, absolutely terrible! Also, going to water soon and I understand the straps on the p5k don't kick in until a much higher fsb is attained and there are many more bios options.

Now for the stupid reason: I'm a big ati fan (completely disappointed with their latest line, completely). I'm kinda rolling the dice on the xtx being outstanding and crossfire doesn't require 2 x 16x. Not that I've run crossfire or sli before. The performance boost, to me isn't worth the investment (I believe the best improvement I've seen is about 25% gain or so).

By the way, thank you for posting such informative threads on ram, correlation between ram+cpu, etc. Really great stuff and its helped me get a firmer understanding of the process

I'm curious to hear what you have to say on my perspective.
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I don't believe you will find too many benefits of P35 over your P5W DH. I think you will just be waisting your money. P35 may be good, but it is nothing special.

X38 may have SLI support. It will have 2 x PCI Express 2.0 16x slots.

What does P35 have that is so much better than 975X / 965P?
Read Here:Link

It's in the memory controller. Jump to the conclusion section where they discuss P35>P965 in detail..
    
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It's in the memory controller. Jump to the conclusion section where they discuss P35>P965 in detail..
Great stitch, rep+, my friend.
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Pauldovi: Thank you for the input. My p5w, unfortunately, handles ram badly. Best I've been able to get out of the stuff in sig is pc2 7100 at like 5 6 6 18 timings and something like 2.2 volts, absolutely terrible! Also, going to water soon and I understand the straps on the p5k don't kick in until a much higher fsb is attained and there are many more bios options.

Now for the stupid reason: I'm a big ati fan (completely disappointed with their latest line, completely). I'm kinda rolling the dice on the xtx being outstanding and crossfire doesn't require 2 x 16x. Not that I've run crossfire or sli before. The performance boost, to me isn't worth the investment (I believe the best improvement I've seen is about 25% gain or so).

By the way, thank you for posting such informative threads on ram, correlation between ram+cpu, etc. Really great stuff and its helped me get a firmer understanding of the process

I'm curious to hear what you have to say on my perspective.
I too had a P5W DH Deluxe. Memory did not run much faster than about DDR2-800 for me either.

Personally, I would not get an ASUS board right now. Their boards have dropped in quality as ASUS turns into a marketing hype. For me, the only motherboards I will be getting in the future are Intel ones. Since they introduced the Enthusiasts motherboard and embraced overclocking, they have been the company to go with in terms of motherboard:

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The successor the the highly successful D975XBX2 (Bad Axe 2) will be DX38BT (Bone Trail). Be aware that Penryn/Wolfdale/Yorkfield requires VRM 11.1 specification support; this means that EVERYONE (unless you are smart enough to know how to mod your board yourself... )will need to buy a new motherboard to support 45nm CPUs from Intel. This could be a simple revision refresh (as we saw when Conroe was released in June 2006) or an entirely new model based on the next-generation Intel 3-series chipsets.

DX38BT Product Highlights:
  • Based on the next-generation X38 Express chipset (MCH)
  • Intel Duo/Quad/Extreme (dual and quad) Core support at up to 1333MHz FSB, dual channel DDR2/DDR3 memory support with Fast Memory Access technology
  • Intel ICH9 southbridge, 12 USB ports, supporting up to 6 additional PCI Express 1.1(a) lanes [physics card upgrade support], GBit LAN
  • 2x PCI Express 2.0 16x ports (backwards compatable with PCI Express 1.1 specification), Crossfire is supported
  • 6x SATA 3.0GB/s ports, Intel Maxtrix Storage Technology (RAID)
  • Intel High Definition (HD) Technology
  • Full overclocking/overvoltage options via BIOS and NEW Windows GUI utility for overclocking, including auto-tune capabilities
-FCG
In regards to the videocard. I think it is still beneficial to have the PCI Express 2.0 and two 16x bandwidth. I don't think I will ever use two videocards (SLI or CrossFire) however I have a use for them in terms of RAID controller, Physics cards, and other future add-ons.

My best suggestion for anyone who wants a good motherboard is to wait for the X38. If you are going with a money sensitive build, then get the P35.
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