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post #11 of 30
Open source is also inherently more secure at the same time because there are many white-hat hackers who find security holes and fix them. The user base doesn't have to wait for a patch from the developers. They only wait for a patch from the first person to release a patch. So there.
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post #12 of 30
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an OS is only as secure as the person who is using it.

no pr0n or illegal DL's and you have little to worry about
I agree. I run NO antivirus software on my system, and have not done so for YEARS. I have never had my system infected unless I was using to a site which I knew was questionable, in which case I knew what to expect. Your computer won't just infect itself by sitting there, you have to do it yourself.
post #13 of 30
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Originally Posted by Higgins View Post
Linux users dont have as much security issues to worry about, because the Linux user base is so small that people dont really try to hack it as much.

Yes i know, a lot of servers run on Linux.. but that market isnt nearly as big as the actual user market.

Linux is built differently then Windows, its meant for users who know what their doing and want to have a totally "theirs" OS.

This is true with Linux, OS X, and Windows.. if Linux and OS X had as much market share as M$ does with Windows you bet there'd be more hackers attacking PCs with OSs other then Windows..

Windows has the largest user base so naturally it gets the most attention from hackers.

Im tired of people saying how insecure Windows Vista is.. when almost every hacker is trying to get into it and M$ is doing a helluva good job keeping most of them out.
- Myth: There's Safety In Small Numbers

The reason that windows is attacked more is not because it has a larger user base. If that were true we would see a majority of server attacks against linux because most of the internet runs on linux. Instead, hackers focus on the portion that run less secure OS's (like windows server)

Once again, you should at least pretend to have clicked the link- your position is completely destroyed inside
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Everything will always have flaws.
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post #15 of 30
Linux is simply more secure because it's built better, the amount of people using it has little if anything to do with it.

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post #16 of 30
Wouldn't Linux be more secure since there's so many different variations of it and even of the same distro? Malware and such would have to focus on just one (pointless) or make it for all of them (time consuming and bigger file).
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post #17 of 30
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I agree. I run NO antivirus software on my system, and have not done so for YEARS. I have never had my system infected unless I was using to a site which I knew was questionable, in which case I knew what to expect. Your computer won't just infect itself by sitting there, you have to do it yourself.
Actually, a friend's PC with XP Service Pack 1 got destroyed by a virus, and I reformatted and reinstalled a clean copy of XP SP1... and before a virus scanner completed downloading... it was already reinfected. All you had to do was connect to the internet, and it'd exploit holes in SP1 and infect.

So yes, you can get infected by just sitting there.



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Wouldn't Linux be more secure since there's so many different variations of it and even of the same distro? Malware and such would have to focus on just one (pointless) or make it for all of them (time consuming and bigger file).
That's one reason, and if you do happen to download something bad... it could only damage what that user has access to. Running as root is a big NO-NO.

And if malware was made to exploit a flaw in linux... it'd get patched within hours compared to 6 months with Microsoft.
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post #18 of 30
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Yes i know, a lot of servers run on Linux.. but that market isnt nearly as big as the actual user market.
Yes, but anyone who gets the title of hacker/cracker is someone that goes after a server. A real hacker is going after a server with lots and lots of personal info, not your **** collection. We call them script kiddies.
Linux/Unix is basically more secure b/c of its user setup. MS tried to copy it in Vista, but they screwed it up.
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Actually, a friend's PC with XP Service Pack 1 got destroyed by a virus, and I reformatted and reinstalled a clean copy of XP SP1... and before a virus scanner completed downloading... it was already reinfected. All you had to do was connect to the internet, and it'd exploit holes in SP1 and infect.

So yes, you can get infected by just sitting there.
You're not kidding

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Malicious software is so rampant that the average time it takes for an unpatched Windows XP to be compromised after connecting it directly to the Internet is 16 minutes -- less time than it takes to download and install the patches that would help protect that PC
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Originally Posted by KloroFormd View Post
Actually, a friend's PC with XP Service Pack 1 got destroyed by a virus, and I reformatted and reinstalled a clean copy of XP SP1... and before a virus scanner completed downloading... it was already reinfected. All you had to do was connect to the internet, and it'd exploit holes in SP1 and infect.

So yes, you can get infected by just sitting there.





That's one reason, and if you do happen to download something bad... it could only damage what that user has access to. Running as root is a big NO-NO.

And if malware was made to exploit a flaw in linux... it'd get patched within hours compared to 6 months with Microsoft.

Were you connected directly to the internet, or were you on a LAN? I have NEVER, and I mean NEVER had a computer running Windows XP or Vista get a virus unless I did something really stupid (like run limewire with no virus scanner installed ) I have no idea how you managed to get a virus so quickly unless you did something wrong or downloaded your virus scanner from some weird website.

Regardless, no one has actually said anything proving that Linux is more secure then Windows or vice versa! There has be a lot of "well, Linux should be more secure because of *blank*" or "Windows is not secure because of *blank*", but that doesn't relate to what happens in real life. I am a PC tech, and the amount of actual virus infections I run into is very small. The vast majority of the time the problems are caused by programs the user them self has installed, such as Limewire, MySpace IM (), WeatherBug, etc.

Also, remember when there was that competition a while back to see if someone could hack into OS X? Some guy found an exploit almost immediately! Since there are so many people trying to hack Windows, the exploits get found quickly and get a patch. Since there arnt as many people trying so hard to hack into Linux/Unix/OS X boxes, the exploits are not found, and remain unpatched.
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