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Why would a 16" monitor imply more CPU rendering? A 16" monitor compared to what?

And no, I didn't tell them because I didn't want them to think that they didn't get me a good enough gift for some reason. I can't explain it completely but even though it's a hunk of circuits it's still a sentimental thing to them. Don't ask me why, who knows why anyone's parents think the way they do.
At those resolutions you're not really using as much GPU power as, say, with a 20".
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post #32 of 47
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At those resolutions you're not really using as much GPU power as, say, with a 20".
A GPU is still rendering the same image just smaller at 16" thus using less power but it doesn't shift the rendering to CPU.. So saying 16" uses less GPU and more CPU is wrong.
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A GPU is still rendering the same image just smaller at 16" thus using less power but it doesn't shift the rendering to CPU.. So saying 16" uses less GPU and more CPU is wrong.
He never said 16" uses more CPU power. More like 16"'s fps is accounted for CPU power more.
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Read My Quoted Sig!?@#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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+1 Rep 4u... I don't care what anyone else says, for the most part the above statement IS true. I have experienced this myself...

I have an AGP system: XP 2500+ / A7N8X-E deluxe mobo / 9600XT / 1GB DDR400 Corsair XMS. I received a VisionTek Radeon X1950Pro AGP 256MB AGP card as a Christmas gift, and said to myself "sweeeet!". Well, turns out it didn't do much compared 3+ year old Radeon 9600XT.

The card was horribly bottlenecked... my MAX frame rate went up a little in some games like HL2/CSS, Doom 3, Quake 4, etc. to around 60-70 FPS in fairly high detail, but the rates were typically around 10-20 most of the time - just like with the 9600XT (max detail also.) So basically I had to set the detail to med-low @ low resolutions just like the old card to make the games playable.

I ended up selling the card on Ebay, and obviously took a price hit being that it was from Best Buy (rip-off city). I felt bad selling a gift from my parents, but it was seriously a waste of money.

Long story short - If you are into newer games, AGP is simply not cost effective. It may cost more to do a complete upgrade or buy a new system, but at least the money is not being wasted.

From my experience this isn't true at all. I went fro a 9600XT to a 7800 and have seen a HUGE difference in frame rates. Now, it isn't as big of jump from the XT to a X1950 but still enough to make a difference.


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A GPU is still rendering the same image just smaller at 16" thus using less power but it doesn't shift the rendering to CPU.. So saying 16" uses less GPU and more CPU is wrong.
Talking about the size of the monitor doesn't make a bit of difference. It is the resolution that matters. Typically the 20" would have a much larger resolution and therefore using more GPU, CPU useage would stay about the same
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What the HECK are you talking about? If you have enough money to afford an HD anything card in AGP go and buy a PCI-E MB + Good CPU first, save more before. Then get a good PCIe card. AGP Cards are going to be so bottlenecked by the damn CPU. Unless you get a crappy C2D AGP mobo that will barely oc or stock c lol....

LET AGP DIE. It's just crappy and if you have enough money for these cards you may as well have enough money to get a new cpu + mb.
Not everyone with AGP systems use it to play games. I have a HTPC with a AGP vid card and I've been waiting to upgrade the card with a better one. Now that this came out, I think I've found my upgrade. I finally get HDTV out and HDMI plus all of the video decoding features. While this card might not be great for those who want to play cutting edge games, this is a perfect upgrade for those who have HTPCs with AGP.
    
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NOOO I have AGP!!!!!!!!!!!
    
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Not everyone with AGP systems use it to play games. I have a HTPC with a AGP vid card and I've been waiting to upgrade the card with a better one. Now that this came out, I think I've found my upgrade. I finally get HDTV out and HDMI plus all of the video decoding features. While this card might not be great for those who want to play cutting edge games, this is a perfect upgrade for those who have HTPCs with AGP.
Whats the point of shelling out big bucks and be limited to what the PC can do overall with the crap CPU? Seriously? Whatever your money.
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what about people with P4/PD's And AGP...
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well this is smart... these companies are still making cards for agp. i see it as that this card is more for people who aren't computer savy and when they go to the store and say "arg i wish i can play pc games at high quality on my pc" this is good for them because they don't have to go and sti deciding what new pc to buy so they just pick up the card, even if it dosnt benefit them in any way performance wise

and ive got a 7800gs and well i got a asrock mobo with both pci-e and agp and it does support dual core so my agp card might be good until i actually buy a pci-e card
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