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this setup is on a E6300 at 3794MHz (542X7)
the ram (DDR1000 HZ), mobo (DS3), and cpu (above) have more OCing headroom.

this is the TEC in question http://www.crazypc.com/products/5912.html

the loop is cpu only, consists of a Hydor L35, Swiftech Apogee GT (not lapped yet), Heatercore Rad with two vantec tornados.

right now temps are 31-32 idle and 42-45 load. the cpu's wattage is 158W since its at 1.5Vcore (the OC is stable at 1.45 but hes keeping it higher in anticipation of more ocing)

now as far as im concerned all i have to do to set this up is put a double sided-lapped coldplate right on the cpu, then the TEC, then the waterblock and clamp it down real tight. before this i need to put dielectric grease in the cpu socket (where the pins go) and around the motherboard.

if the TEC is 226W, can i run it at 160W (not as low as some say i should run it at for more efficiency) so that it will take away all the heat and then some from the CPU? if its run at <158W, wont it just keep heating up cause 158J of heat is produced by the CPU each second? or will the waterblock take care of that?

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You also need to get neoprene foam to insulate the socket area. This is to prevent condensation and improve the performance of the TEC. Waterblock can take the 250-350w load. However, what heatercore do you have? This is the most important aspect of the loop cooling
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i just asked him on xfire, he says its a Bonneville (i am assuming the classic 77-79) brougham, with AC
link: http://replacement.autopartswarehous...20Core&dp=true
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will that heatercore handle the pelt?
    
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will that heatercore handle the pelt?
Basically, a 2x120mm heatercore... correct? It should be ok since you are using Tornados fans.
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well its big enough for 2X120mm so yeah its the size of that, but he's using 2X80mm vantec tornado fans, about 80-90 CFM i believe

edit:84.1 CFM each. so yeah better than/equal to many 120mm fans
    
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edit:84.1 CFM each. so yeah better than/equal to many 120mm fans
CFM is not all that matters. Those 80mm fans do not put out the same air pressure at that CFM, so they are not really up to par with a 120mm of that output.
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CFM is not all that matters. Those 80mm fans do not put out the same air pressure at that CFM, so they are not really up to par with a 120mm of that output.
This doesn't seem to be the case. Pressure is based on air velocity so an 80mm fan flowing the same as a 120mm fan will have a high air velocity and therefore have a high pressure

120mm fan EC12025SL12B
1400rpm53.4 flow 0.07pressure

80mm fan EC8015TH12B
4000rpm43.46 flow 0.19 pressure

http://www.evercool.com.tw/products/fan_12025.htm
http://www.evercool.com.tw/products/fan_8015.htm
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120mm fan EC12025SL12B
1400rpm 53.4 flow 0.07pressure

80mm fan EC8015TH12B
4000rpm 43.46 flow 0.19 pressure
Almost right again...Pressure ) is the force per unit area applied on a surface in a direction perpendicular to that surface. Mathematically:

p = \\frac{F}{A}\\,

So your figures would be correct, but they do not account for the increased density, caused from the larger sized fan blades. In other words, 53.4 flow 0.07pressure is actually moving more air than -> 43.46 flow 0.19 pressure, and only because of these figures-> [1400rpm 53.4 flow] vs. [4000rpm 43.46 flow]. If you look at those numbers, you will see, the larger fan is producing a higher rate of flow at the lower CFM...this is directly related to its ability to push a larger amount of air....hence...more pressure. Your figures do not fully represent the true equation.

good try though.
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Originally Posted by CL3P20 View Post
Almost right again...Pressure ) is the force per unit area applied on a surface in a direction perpendicular to that surface. Mathematically:

p = \\frac{F}{A}\\,

So your figures would be correct, but they do not account for the increased density, caused from the larger sized fan blades. In other words, 53.4 flow 0.07pressure is actually moving more air than -> 43.46 flow 0.19 pressure, and only because of these figures-> [1400rpm 53.4 flow] vs. [4000rpm 43.46 flow]. If you look at those numbers, you will see, the larger fan is producing a higher rate of flow at the lower CFM...this is directly related to its ability to push a larger amount of air....hence...more pressure. Your figures do not fully represent the true equation.

good try though.
That just gave me a head-ache... ...Plus a 120mm fan covers a larger area of the rad....
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