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& btw I think that Windows is more secure than Linux because Microsoft handles all the securities patches. But I don't know about the Linux productiveness; there are large big enterprises that run Linux at the core backbone. Take it form me (a windows system certified engineer)
But what you fail to realize is how Windows handles it's permissions and how easily an application can cripple the OS.

Let's say you download some "insane virus of doom" for linux....it'll say something like "insane virus of doom would like to have access to your kernel, type your admin password"....lol.

basically, if you're not admin on linux (you should never be), then most attacks will not hurt you (if there ever was one).

Linus is more secure. While I don't question your knowledge, I must say that it doesn't matter WHO develops the security patches...it's HOW the security patches are implemented, and how secure the OS was to begin with.

Oh, and ya...I like Windows XP, OS X, and Linux...they're all good. I am not really partial to any of them....but I'd say Linux is my least favourite just because of the least compatibility with apps I use often.
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I've always respected Linux a lot more than Microsoft for a long time (even though I use Windows). But over time, I've started to see how much of fanboys Linux people can be, even when they refuse to accept something as a flaw. Example: On Vista, User Account Control is a "defect." On Linux, Root password is a "feature."
Seriously, Linux people. Your OS isn't perfect, Microsoft's isn't perfect. Gates isn't evil, you're not the messiah. DEAL WITH IT.
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I've always respected Linux a lot more than Microsoft for a long time (even though I use Windows). But over time, I've started to see how much of fanboys Linux people can be, even when they refuse to accept something as a flaw. Example: On Vista, User Account Control is a "defect." On Linux, Root password is a "feature."
Seriously, Linux people. Your OS isn't perfect, Microsoft's isn't perfect. Gates isn't evil, you're not the messiah. DEAL WITH IT.
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But what you fail to realize is how Windows handles it's permissions and how easily an application can cripple the OS.

Let's say you download some "insane virus of doom" for linux....it'll say something like "insane virus of doom would like to have access to your kernel, type your admin password"....lol.

basically, if you're not admin on linux (you should never be), then most attacks will not hurt you (if there ever was one).

Linus is more secure. While I don't question your knowledge, I must say that it doesn't matter WHO develops the security patches...it's HOW the security patches are implemented, and how secure the OS was to begin with.

Oh, and ya...I like Windows XP, OS X, and Linux...they're all good. I am not really partial to any of them....but I'd say Linux is my least favourite just because of the least compatibility with apps I use often.
Vista has fixed that problem with UAC Also, if you really want to get into the fine points of it, NTFS permissions are much more granular then the Linux permissions, so if you are a system administrator for a domain, say, you have a TUN of power of what you can allow people to have access to
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Vista > Linux > XP > OSX

they are all different, i've used all of them and Vista seems the most solid.. Yeah you can customize the hell outta Linux, and you can use your cool little terminal program, and i love how Linux is totally user-maintanable. But i feel better with Vista cause its always installing updates, i always see the little box at the bottom say "installing updates" And vista doesnt have to restart with everything it updates.. because the way it handles drivers has been re-coded.. they are no longer inside the kernel so you dont need to restart the kernel to update the drivers. But critical updates to the kernel will still have to restart t he computer.. but what do you expect.

I use Vista because of the ease of use, compatibility, and wide range of programs at my fingertips i can install with one click..
    
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why have 4gb of ram if your os only uses 110mb?

Vista does not use all that memory, it saves it for programs that need it and cache to make things run even faster, it's quite ingenious.
Linux/UNIX has been doing that same thing, for longer.

I have nothing against Windows, I have it on my main machine, I just hardly use it. Linux just fits me better for what I want to do (coding). I use Linux the most, then it'd be OS X, and then WIndows.
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Vista has fixed that problem with UAC Also, if you really want to get into the fine points of it, NTFS permissions are much more granular then the Linux permissions, so if you are a system administrator for a domain, say, you have a TUN of power of what you can allow people to have access to
I turned UAC off, too much of a hassle with overclocking.
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Vista > Linux > XP > OSX

they are all different, i've used all of them and Vista seems the most solid.. Yeah you can customize the hell outta Linux, and you can use your cool little terminal program, and i love how Linux is totally user-maintanable. But i feel better with Vista cause its always installing updates, i always see the little box at the bottom say "installing updates" And vista doesnt have to restart with everything it updates.. because the way it handles drivers has been re-coded.. they are no longer inside the kernel so you dont need to restart the kernel to update the drivers. But critical updates to the kernel will still have to restart t he computer.. but what do you expect.

I use Vista because of the ease of use, compatibility, and wide range of programs at my fingertips i can install with one click..
When linux is installing updates it also updates all of your programs

You're right about vista being better with compatibility - but then again the only thing windows has ever had over linux is third party support
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No kidding.
DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS

You just look at the mountain of SDK's, Frameworks, libraries, code samples, etc. on MSDN, and you see why Windows has so much third-party support. Although, to be fair, open-source means you also have a WHOLE lot of such libraries and SDKs...so it's a hard call. All we know is, Macs lose that one by far.
Vista ? Linux > OS X
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But i feel better with Vista cause its always installing updates, i always see the little box at the bottom say "installing updates" And vista doesnt have to restart with everything it updates.. because the way it handles drivers has been re-coded.. they are no longer inside the kernel so you dont need to restart the kernel to update the drivers. But critical updates to the kernel will still have to restart t he computer.. but what do you expect.

I use Vista because of the ease of use, compatibility, and wide range of programs at my fingertips i can install with one click..
Code:
emerge -sync
emerge -world
emerge whateverthehellprogramyouwant
Linux and all the programs you install on it are constantly being updated, you probably have you programs and program update quite a few more clicks away than I do, there is a world of great open-source apps that can do anything at my fingertips. True Windows native programs require
Code:
wine setup.exe
but this is not a problem with the OS, so don't anyone diss Linux for not being able to run programs made for Windows as well as Windows.

And ban that spammer ThePaperRoute!
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