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Lol, had no idea about teh differences between Core Duo vs Core 2 Duo

I don't think I'd go Mac b/c I want support for all games, new + old (like prior 2000 too ).

What bothers me is having a Dual Core (really good CPU) and merely a decent GPU. It's inevitable that, for games, the GPU will bottleneck the system.....

And no, I won't be "burning a CD while watching a movie" lol.

Something else to consider is the keyboard, and IBM (Lenovo) is (seemingly) well known for having good ones. I mean, I will be using the computer for school primarily, and then some gaming on the side. And also, it should be a Swedish keyboard, you know, with äöå and not to mention ¤! But I found some kool stickers (lol) on ebay that you can stick on teh keyboard to fix it.

Thatäs why I think I should go for a 13.3"-14.1" screen, so the keyboard can be "full size".
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Lol, had no idea about teh differences between Core Duo vs Core 2 Duo

I don't think I'd go Mac b/c I want support for all games, new + old (like prior 2000 too ).

What bothers me is having a Dual Core (really good CPU) and merely a decent GPU. It's inevitable that, for games, the GPU will bottleneck the system.....

And no, I won't be "burning a CD while watching a movie" lol.

Something else to consider is the keyboard, and IBM (Lenovo) is (seemingly) well known for having good ones. I mean, I will be using the computer for school primarily, and then some gaming on the side. And also, it should be a Swedish keyboard, you know, with äöå and not to mention ¤! But I found some kool stickers (lol) on ebay that you can stick on teh keyboard to fix it.

Thatäs why I think I should go for a 13.3"-14.1" screen, so the keyboard can be "full size".

All that you said is very true.

If you are that concerned with bottlenecking during gaming, then the original 15.4" 7600GS you posted is going to be your best bang for the buck. However, it seems that you are more interested in gaming than I originally thought.

Most good gaming cards that won't bottleneck your system (i.e. GO 7900GS and up) aren't available in laptops smaller than 17", and with huge price tags.

As stated, a Go 7300, Go 7400, or X1400pro video card will easily handle games like Half-Life 2, GTR2, F.E.A.R., WOW, etc... at 1280x800 resolutions with some eye candy but no Anti-Aliasing.

With the Go 7600, you will be able to turn up AF and MAYBE some anti-aliasing on some older games.

However, with neither of them will you really be screaming through games.

What I'm getting at is don't settle for a low-end processor just because the video card will be a bottle-neck in games. You WILL notice a difference in processors when you are running 3 - 5 applications at once.
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Also, what about just getting a nice $700 lappy with integrated graphics, and spending the difference on an Xbox 360?

With all due respect, it really doesn't sound like you've got enough cash to throw around to really afford PC gaming...
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Also, what about just getting a nice $700 lappy with integrated graphics, and spending the difference on an Xbox 360?

With all due respect, it really doesn't sound like you've got enough cash to throw around to really afford PC gaming...
Lol, well the laptop is gonna be a Birthday present (June 30th) but I know my parents don't wanna spend much more than 1K.

Console gaming?? Don't think so......

But yah, I could just go for integrated, and spend the rest to build a micro-atx system to bring along. But it would be simpler w/ one computer.

Basically, I want to be able to play games around the Ut2004 range (~50fps), as well as older games like FF8 or Deus Ex.
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What I'm getting at is don't settle for a low-end processor just because the video card will be a bottle-neck in games. You WILL notice a difference in processors when you are running 3 - 5 applications at once.
You mean like Skype, Xfire, Windows Explorer, Firefox, and Openoffice? I need dual core for that?
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You mean like Skype, Xfire, Windows Explorer, Firefox, and Openoffice? I need dual core for that?
Acutally Iw as thinking bulkier programs like itunes, MS Office '07, etc...

Moreover, Vista is multi-threaded. it will take advantage of multi-core procs far better than XP ever did.

I can also say that we ordered a laptop with the 1.60GHZ Turion X2 here at the company last week with 1GB of ram and a GO 7300.

Vista ran fairly sluggishly on that system. I would suggest getting something with a Core2Duo Pro and 2GB of ram to run Vista...

But how can I afford that? Niklas asks?

Well I'll tell you - and you'll thank me for it. I just ordered another laptop for our company, and I got the greatest deal ever. Follow this:

BRAND NEW Dell E1505-
1.73GHz Core 2 Duo
2GB DDR2 Ram
256MB X1400 Pro VId Card
-Vista PREMIUM
-80GB Harddrive
-SWXGA+ 1680x1050 monitor
Wirless-N card

for how much? $957 shipped. Yup. Thank me later. I know it's a little large, but you can't beat the deal.

Dell Currently has a $50 coupon for any computer with an X1400 pro vid card.

Combine that with this $500 off any E1505 laptop $1,399 or higher coupon:
http://www.notebookreview.com/dellCoupon.asp

And you have the greatest laptop deal in history. If you can stomach the size of a 15.4" notebook, this is seriously the deal of the century. Start Configuring here:http://www.dell.com/content/products...=19&l=en&s=dhs

Note: They also have coupons for the 14.1" model, but htat model doesn't offer a graphics card option.
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You mean like Skype, Xfire, Windows Explorer, Firefox, and Openoffice? I need dual core for that?
Don't skimp out on a good processor. I recommended a Core Duo to my dad for a cheap Dell laptop build, and man is it slow. Then I recommended the same laptop with a 7200rpm drive and a C2D to someone else, and man is it fast!

Trust me, you'll get really tired really quick of 3 minute start up times. Even though you wouldn't be using the whole processor for most games, and even though the graphics card would bottleneck for most games, you'll much appreciate it for the battery life and for general operation speed. Windows will load faster, applications will load faster, your system won't lock up on a process as much (though I suppose that's circumvented by any dual-core). Just please don't get a Turion or Core Duo.

Oh, and I'll vouch for the 12" XPS as well. It's an awesome machine, a friend of mine has one. I have an Inspiron 6000 (it's 3 years old now), and it's not too bad, but I do wish it was a bit smaller. I would love to have the 12" for an ultra-portable machine. Maybe my next purchase.

Finally, DO get the longest warranty you can on any laptop you buy... I've had the motherboard, hard drive, fans, heatsink, etc replaced in my laptop, and I still have another year of warranty left. Definitely worth it, IMO.
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I like a 14.4 screen for gaming/homework usage. It fits in my messenger bag perfectly, but some games HAET widescreen. But I can deal, I loev widescreen (1280x768 is the native resolution on my brightview HP)
    
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Ok, SgtSpike has convinced that Core Duo 2 is best

15.4" is pretttty big, donno, but that is an awesome deal!

But w/ a 9-cell battery (two even), I'm wondering if I could get over 3 hours battery. That's kinda my minimum for 1 battery.....
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Ok, SgtSpike has convinced that Core Duo 2 is best

15.4" is pretttty big, donno, but that is an awesome deal!

But w/ a 9-cell battery (two even), I'm wondering if I could get over 3 hours battery. That's kinda my minimum for 1 battery.....

6 cell battery gets 2.5 - 3.5 hours
9 cell battery gets 4 - 5.5 hours

Consistently.

With all the powersaving features on, and your screen turned down low, you should be able to hit 5 hours on the 9-cell battery if you're just doing basic word processing and net browsing.
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