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I did a search, found a couple threads that touched on this, but the question was never answered and it appears the original poster either solved it and never mentioned it or gave up.

So I am starting this up.


Long story short, I had to tear down one of my systems to upgrade the motherboard due to a faulty LAN on the original one (I'm RMAing the faulty one and will build a new system with the replacement to add to my farm)

I figured since I was doing this, it would be a good time to add more storage to my house, so I bought a couple 320GB Seagates to set up a RAID. And I figured since I was re-installing everything anyway, might as well play with a copy of Vista I came across.

Trouble is, my P5B Premium Vista Edition has no RAID drivers for Vista on the CD, despite the stamp on the CD claiming Vista drivers included. I made a driver floppy with them and the Vista installer said they were not correct (Incidently, used that same floppy when re-installing XP Pro and they worked fine, so I know they are the XP ones). So I go to ASUS and download the Vista RAID drivers from the website. Turns out, the driver is way to big for a floppy, it's 17MB. So, I save them on a flash drive and try that.

Well, the installer sees the flash drive, sees the files, but it states there are no drivers there. I open the file in XP Pro and there is a setup.exe and several other files, it will even run from within XP Pro as a setup installer.

So I am left with a big *** and a headache. Actually, about what I expected from Vista.

So, who here has set up a RAID 0 on a ICH8R controller using Vista as the OS, and how the heck did you do it?
post #2 of 10
Generally, for onboard RAID, there's something in the BIOS that lets you set what RAID to use, or there should be a msg when booting up to press a certain key to go into the RAID BIOS (USUALLY for offboard, but onboard MIGHT have that)

For drivers, try searching on the net for em.
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I did a search, found a couple threads that touched on this, but the question was never answered and it appears the original poster either solved it and never mentioned it or gave up.

So I am starting this up.


Long story short, I had to tear down one of my systems to upgrade the motherboard due to a faulty LAN on the original one (I'm RMAing the faulty one and will build a new system with the replacement to add to my farm)

I figured since I was doing this, it would be a good time to add more storage to my house, so I bought a couple 320GB Seagates to set up a RAID. And I figured since I was re-installing everything anyway, might as well play with a copy of Vista I came across.

Trouble is, my P5B Premium Vista Edition has no RAID drivers for Vista on the CD, despite the stamp on the CD claiming Vista drivers included. I made a driver floppy with them and the Vista installer said they were not correct (Incidently, used that same floppy when re-installing XP Pro and they worked fine, so I know they are the XP ones). So I go to ASUS and download the Vista RAID drivers from the website. Turns out, the driver is way to big for a floppy, it's 17MB. So, I save them on a flash drive and try that.

Well, the installer sees the flash drive, sees the files, but it states there are no drivers there. I open the file in XP Pro and there is a setup.exe and several other files, it will even run from within XP Pro as a setup installer.

So I am left with a big *** and a headache. Actually, about what I expected from Vista.

So, who here has set up a RAID 0 on a ICH8R controller using Vista as the OS, and how the heck did you do it?
Vista on a raid arrary does not need drivers during install. Vista is able to see the raid arrary during install regardless of drivers present or not. Windows xp and prior can't see the arrary with out drivers. Difference between xp with drivers on fresh install vs vista fresh install with no drivers minimal to no difference, tested with HD Tach.

I have 2 arrarys on 2 seperate controlers 1 for each os and HD Tach speeds for each controler are near identical.
    
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I did a search, found a couple threads that touched on this, but the question was never answered and it appears the original poster either solved it and never mentioned it or gave up.

So I am starting this up.


Long story short, I had to tear down one of my systems to upgrade the motherboard due to a faulty LAN on the original one (I'm RMAing the faulty one and will build a new system with the replacement to add to my farm)

I figured since I was doing this, it would be a good time to add more storage to my house, so I bought a couple 320GB Seagates to set up a RAID. And I figured since I was re-installing everything anyway, might as well play with a copy of Vista I came across.

Trouble is, my P5B Premium Vista Edition has no RAID drivers for Vista on the CD, despite the stamp on the CD claiming Vista drivers included. I made a driver floppy with them and the Vista installer said they were not correct (Incidently, used that same floppy when re-installing XP Pro and they worked fine, so I know they are the XP ones). So I go to ASUS and download the Vista RAID drivers from the website. Turns out, the driver is way to big for a floppy, it's 17MB. So, I save them on a flash drive and try that.

Well, the installer sees the flash drive, sees the files, but it states there are no drivers there. I open the file in XP Pro and there is a setup.exe and several other files, it will even run from within XP Pro as a setup installer.

So I am left with a big *** and a headache. Actually, about what I expected from Vista.

So, who here has set up a RAID 0 on a ICH8R controller using Vista as the OS, and how the heck did you do it?

I am running Vista on a 2 drive RAID 0 array right now on the ICH5R lol.

Vista does not look for or need RAID drivers...

It just loads on the array you build in BIOS...just like XP would if they had built it with proper support...no Floppy--no F6
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Hhhmm, I thought it gave me an error when I tried to move forward without loading drivers. IIRC, the "format" option was even greyed out for the array.

I'll have to give it another try I guess........
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Well, it worked fine. Thanks guys, I wonder why I thought it errored out the first time.

Funny thing, it would clear up a lot of confusion if ASUS didn't have RAID drivers for vista on their website. How about just a note under RAID drivers "Vista: None needed."
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If i recall on the asus web site they have a few actual drivers for raid when making the arrary during install but most are for (optional) drivers for the controler in use once in windows.
    
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Don't ever go to ASUS for Intel's software, they have the oldest and crappiest.

Gotta go Intel, the dark side of the force, so here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Filter_Results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=2529&OS FullName=Windows*+XP+Professional&lang=eng&strOSs= 44&submit=Go%21

Anyhow:
-First, you download and install the latest BIOS from ASUS and that will update the ROM on the ICH8-R.
-2nd, download the latest chipset drives for the P965 (Version: 8.2.0.1014).
-3rd, download the latest Floppy Configuration Utility (Version: 7.0.0.1020).
-4th, download the latest RAID/AHCI Software (Version: 7.0.0.1020).

Update the BIOS. Reboot.
Enable the RAID by hitting the CTRL + I
Create RAID in the ICH8-R
Install CD or DVD OS, hit F6 for BIOS floppy config.
Use floppy and create RAID for Windows
Install Windows
Install chipset drivers
Install RAID software utility.

In that order it's how I do it.

BTW, notice how the floppy config utility and RAID software shared the same version, why? Because it's the latest for both, hardware and software and thus a reliable RAID it will be...........unless you have a drive with a bad cluster, that could really ruin the whole thing up.

Good luck.
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Don't ever go to ASUS for Intel's software, they have the oldest and crappiest.

Gotta go Intel, the dark side of the force, so here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Filt...4&submit=Go%21

Anyhow:
-First, you download and install the latest BIOS from ASUS and that will update the ROM on the ICH8-R.
-2nd, download the latest chipset drives for the P965 (Version: 8.2.0.1014).
-3rd, download the latest Floppy Configuration Utility (Version: 7.0.0.1020).
-4th, download the latest RAID/AHCI Software (Version: 7.0.0.1020).

Update the BIOS. Reboot.
Enable the RAID by hitting the CTRL + I
Create RAID in the ICH8-R
Install CD or DVD OS, hit F6 for BIOS floppy config.
Use floppy and create RAID for Windows
Install Windows
Install chipset drivers
Install RAID software utility.

In that order it's how I do it.

BTW, notice how the floppy config utility and RAID software shared the same version, why? Because it's the latest for both, hardware and software and thus a reliable RAID it will be...........unless you have a drive with a bad cluster, that could really ruin the whole thing up.

Good luck.
Great instructions...for XP

Rep for you anyway for being so darn concise with your slightly off topic reply
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it works for vista too. I used it with my vista
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