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post #31 of 46
It a total joke imo and a serious waste of money. And i feel they are slightly misguiding customers with their advertising

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Just ask Vince “k|ngp|n” Lucido. He was able to raise the bar and set the 3DMark 2006 world record at over 25,000 points with a pair of EVGA 8800 Ultra’s.
They fail to mention he is using LN2 on a Quad Core overclocked over 4Ghz with LN2 cooled GTX's. Hardly an average day to day score....
 
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post #32 of 46
I am not sure why you keep on going back to the GTS. I never once said (in this thread or any other) that the GTX was a waist of money. Not once. What I did say is that the Ultra is a waiste of money. Anything that the Ultra can do, the GTX can do likewise. Guaranteed. Do you really think that the Ultra can run a game a settings that the GTX can't?

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So i should but an 8800GTS and clock it to GTX or Ultra speeds? Then I could save another $300
That is not what I said. Again you are avoiding the subject and changing what I said.

I said the GTX and GTS have the same architecture. I said the GTX and the Ultra have the exact same GPU. Please read what I say.
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You can own this for the low price of $$$899.99$$$ This cost more than my car lol
Too some people, thats pretty low
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post #34 of 46
What bothers me is that we saw pictures of the card a while ago.
If they want more peeps to buy the cards, cut the damn prices.

I hope the government comes crashing on these guys and hopefully get reasonable prices.
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post #35 of 46
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I can get the clocks on my videocard that this "Black Pearl" is getting.

There is absolutely no reason to spend the extra money on the "Ultra" portion or the "Black Pearl" portion of this video card. Anyone who buys this is a fool.

An ultra runs stock at the max of what most overclocked GTXs can handle.

None of the GTX or GTS etc etc use the new silicon and other parts that allow higher overclocks so no you wont match an overclocked Ultra withan overclocked GTX/GTS.
post #36 of 46
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What I did say is that the Ultra is a waiste of money. Anything that the Ultra can do, the GTX can do likewise. Guaranteed.
I guarantee that is not the case!

http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.a...tno=403&pgno=1

New Silicon

While the GeForce 8800 Ultra is based on the same G80 GPU as the GeForce 8800 GTX, it uses a revised G80 silicon. The new silicon, and the 90nm process used to create it, had been tweaked by NVIDIA and TSMC to improve timings and clock speeds.

In other words, this is the same GPU, only tweaked to run at faster clock speeds and lower timings. This revised silicon also has a slightly smaller thermal output. Although NVIDIA was not forthcoming about the thermal dissipation of this new GPU, they did say that the new GeForce 8800 Ultra graphics card will consume slightly less power (2W or 1.13%) than the GeForce 8800 GTX.



http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/...tra/whatis.php



Underneath the cooler we have a G80 core on a reference PCB/memory design. Despite the reference layout the cards detailed specifications are anything but reference. The core is running at 650MHz, this is 75Mhz more than the GTX's reference 575Mhz. The memory clock on the XXX is an incredible 2260Mhz, around 460Mhz faster than the stock GTX (20% increase). As with the GTX the Ultra uses a 384bit memory bus and GDDR3. The memory chips used on this model are Samsung K4J52324QE-BJ08 and rated at 0.8ns/1250Mhz.

These are hugely impressive statistics and that's probably understating things quite considerably!


The XFX 8800 Ultras arrive out of the box @ 675Mhz, 2300Mem and a shader of 1667!


post #37 of 46
Time to whip out the checkbook and buy something that's going to be not so top notch in a few months..

I can oc both my gtx's to 667/1150. This "new" Si may in fact allow higher gpu clocks, but I have to honestly say that 20 - 30 mhz gpu clock really doesn't seem to manifest itself in a big way as far as benchmarks and ultimately bragging rights are concerned. But of course, how big is big??

I guess manufacturers will continue to offer/market minor tewaks as the latest and greatest as long as the consumer will support them in a "bang for the buck be damned" way.

Conroe was exciting to me, the G80 series was exciting as well.

These two technologies represent a significant performance improvement over previous cpu's/gpu's.

For me, the extra $$$ for this new Si is plain silly. But that's just me.

Everyone was excited about P35 and DDR3, so far the impact has been minimal at best.

It will be interesting to see what happens between now and the holidays with respect to 45nm and the 8900's. Will there be as significant a difference as there was with conroe and G80??

In some ways, I'm more interested to see if AMD and hence ATI can recover enough keep up with Intel's market "onslaught".

It's fun to get excited about all this new stuff, it's even more fun when the $$ spent really have a significant performance impact.

I don't imagine it's a lot of fun shelling out big $$ and getting all pumped up and bragging about something new, and then deciding to turn around and sell it at a loss, cause it turned out not to be what you imagined it to be.

That being said, I'm gonna go check the thread started yesterday to see if a fellow oc'er found anything while dumpster diving!!!
    
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That = Overkill
    
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So, what is this? Pirates of the Caribbean graphics card?
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http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1111&pageID=3510

CONCLUSION
Well if we were grading the XFX Geforce™ 8800 Ultra XXX on performance alone it would most certainly garner a 10 because it is without a doubt the fast graphic card currently manufactured in its category.
It outperforms the GTX by an extremely wide margin, in fact we've seen entirely new series of cards in the past not perform this much better than their predecessor. We'd love to have been able to present this speed demon's numbers in SLI, but it might have been difficult to get XFX to part with a second card, especially given the fact their in short supply and the cost is very high.

Now if we were grading this card on value alone, well lets just say it wouldn't get anywhere close to a 10. While performance is cut and dry, value is somewhat more of a relative term and very much determined by the consumer's perception. Scott reminded me that there were many that spent 750.00 for the 7800GTX 512MB cards when they came out and were completely happy with their purchase. There are also a number of very highly motivated gamers and enthusiasts alike that must have the fastest and best of everything new on the market. I'm sure many of these individuals will readily pay $879 USD for this graphics card. While we feel this card would have sold like hot cakes for $100 more than the GTX we can't really justify and almost $300 jump in the price.

There's no doubt the quality is there in the XFX 8800 Ultra XXX and just in case the card misses a beat there's always XFX's unique double life time warranty to take care of any problems that may arise. Some may think that price and overall value should drive this product's final review score down significantly. If all of us followed that premise completely then Lexus and Mercedes Benz would be bankrupt and some of the cheaper car manufacturers would be very rich. There's a place for everything and in this case we're sure this $879 graphics solution will find it's way into a number enthusiasts' systems and they'll be quite happy and have bragging until the next monster graphics prize is introduced.



I think there are a few GTX owners not so happy they no longer have the fastest cards....
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