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I'd rather have a fully warranty in tact Pentium E2140 at 3.2GHZ than an Allendale that's unstable at 2.8-3.0GHZ that requires a voided warranty and risk of busting the chip to get it stable or at low temps.
You're inferring that an Allendale can't reach a stable overclock of 2.8 to 3ghz without removing the IHS?
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You guys will find this thread interesting:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=143549

The OP got the CPU to post and bench at 3.5GHZ, but with Swifttech water cooling.

Another guy said at 3.2GHZ he was getting 75C load temps on air.

His SuperPi time was as fast as an E6600 at 3.5GHZ, so very comparable to Conroe with double the L2 cache.

In gaming benchmarks, the difference between a 1.8GHZ Pentium E2160 and an Allendale 1.8GHZ E4300 was abysmal, around 1-3% in frame-rates.

Also, the MSRP isn't $92. It's $74 for the 2140 (1.6GHZ) and $86 for the 2160 (1.8GHZ), so these are right on the door step of the X2 Brisbane 3600/3800.
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post #13 of 43
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You're inferring that an Allendale can't reach a stable overclock of 2.8 to 3ghz without removing the IHS?
Stop trolling me. It's a gamble.

There are literally hundreds of people with problems getting an E4300 to be stable at a decent temperature on air cooling without the IHS mod.

Google it before you come back with another half-witted response.

Some people get stable at 2.8-3.0GHZ on an E4300, some people don't.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...readid=2048998
This guy couldn't get past 2.7GHZ unless he bumped voltage up to 1.4.

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=439572
This guy could only hit 2.7 on air and his load temps were 74C. He threw water on it and could hit 3.0 @ 1.36, but even at 1.45 voltage he couldn't post at 3.2GHZ.

Have a look on our own forum if you're in disbelief:
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...ighlight=E4300

Most people have trouble being stable at 3.0GHZ on anything short of 1.4 voltage, and even then, they get higher than 65C load temps unless they lap the IHS or remove it altogether. Voided warranty much?

Stop trolling me please, I don't like double posting to get my point across.
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post #14 of 43
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There are literally hundreds of people with problems getting an E4300 to be stable at a decent temperature on air cooling without the IHS mod.
I have no idea where your attitude comes from nor do I accept a few forum posts as validation that it is uncommon to achieve 2.8ghz on air. I've only used 4 of them and all 4 hit 3 ghz without hassle. Can you show multiple professional reviewers struggling to hit 2.8 ghz?

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Google it before you come back with another half-witted response.
You can Google just as many posters stating their E4300s are stable above your reported cap.

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Stop trolling me please, I don't like double posting to get my point across.
Trolling you? Don't flatter yourself. If you're uncomfortable defending your countless claims and percentages, then perhaps you shouldn't make them.
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Trolling you? Don't flatter yourself. If you're uncomfortable defending your countless claims and percentages, then perhaps you shouldn't make them.
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seems like MC is always on his period...every post i see is him ranting on someone else accusing them of being stupid and that he knows all.
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post #17 of 43
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I have no idea where your attitude comes from nor do I accept a few forum posts as validation that it is uncommon to achieve 2.8ghz on air. I've only used 4 of them and all 4 hit 3 ghz without hassle. Can you show multiple professional reviewers struggling to hit 2.8 ghz?


You can Google just as many posters stating their E4300s are stable above your reported cap.



Trolling you? Don't flatter yourself. If you're uncomfortable defending your countless claims and percentages, then perhaps you shouldn't make them.
Yet again you come in with more speculation than facts.

I've posted links to people claiming instability. I myself have seen the 4300's instability.

Where's your proof? CPU-Z validations? Pictures of being stable at optimum load temps?

Sounds like baseless thrown out words to me, yet again, which seems like it's all you do.
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Well as always Pentium needs super high clock speeds to work as good :..|
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post #19 of 43
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Yet again you come in with more speculation than facts.

I've posted links to people claiming instability. I myself have seen the 4300's instability.

Where's your proof? CPU-Z validations? Pictures of being stable at optimum load temps?

Sounds like baseless thrown out words to me, yet again, which seems like it's all you do.
You're confused and misguided. Rewind the clock and pay careful attention to the facts. You were the person speculating that an E4300 could not attain a stable 2.8ghz without removing the IHS. I simply questioned you on it and you got your panties in an uproar. Every post you linked as "proof" that E4300s struggle to achieve 2.8ghz also contain a greater number of posters stating they obtained higher clocks. You're now asking for proof, cpu-z validations, and pictures in defense to being asked to confirm your original statement? You're the only person making claims and speculating about the E4300 performance.

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Sounds like baseless thrown out words to me, yet again, which seems like it's all you do.
Again, resorting to personal attacks is a sign of weakness. There's simply no place for them in intelligent forum discussions. Let's get back on topic and leave the childish antics for those "omg pwnzors" forums. In case anyone has forgotten, NamelessMC is implying that the average E4300 cannot obtain a stable frequency of 2.8 to 3.0 ghz on air cooling, but the thread is about the new lower priced E2140.
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MC sccr war aside, i'm a bit confused.

Are the Allendales not considered Core 2 Duo's? Are they Core Duo's? If not, *** is a Core Duo?
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