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I'm running a 939 4600+ overclocked to 2596mhz. Multiplier at 11 x 236 and HT at 4 x 236. I like this speed because it's about the same as a 5000+ and doesn't seem to overstress the CPU on my system. This particular mobo seems to max around 240mhz bus speed. The ram is crucial ballistix pc4000 so it's fine.

I noticed the other day after a 5hr round of gaming that Lavalys Everest was reporting me at 2832mhz or 236x12. I thought, how odd. So I checked CPU-Z and it showed the same. So I thought wth, how did this change? I went into the bios and the multiplier was still on 11 not 12. Any ideas how the multipier switched back to the default 12? It ran stable, but it gets warmer than I'd like.
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Any ideas?

I set the 236x11=2596 OC again to see if it would change or if it was freak. I gamed for an hour then checked e-mail surfed the web and it was fine. Overnight the system does microsoft updates, virus scan, spybot checks and it also goes into standby after an hour of idle time. This morning I got on checked e-mail and surfed the web. Then remembered the OC issue, so I checked and sure enough it went to 236x12=2832 OC. So I ran SuperPi to see if it's faster or maybe just misreading. My SuperPi time improved to 31.375s from 33.782s, so the multiplier definitely changed on it's own. I'm guessing it's something to do with the "System Standby". It's idling 2-3C warmer which isn't too bad, but I notice when I game Everest (I know not the most accurate) reports up around 58C which seems a little high to me on an OC.

edit: Oh yea, forgot to mention the HTT stays at 4x and doesn't revert to 5x.
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Well I've decided to leave it at 2832mhz for now. With more careful monitoring, still using Everest (Coretemp crashes my system), the highs when gaming are maxing around 56C.

Anybody else ever have their multiplier change after a System Standby?
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Well I've decided to leave it at 2832mhz for now. With more careful monitoring, still using Everest (Coretemp crashes my system), the highs when gaming are maxing around 56C.

Anybody else ever have their multiplier change after a System Standby?
I've come across something similar (but not the same) as your issues, but unfortunately no solutions.

There are reports of overclocked Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe systems which revert to stock frequencies after returning from Standby mode. The CPU multipliers don't change, but the HT ("FSB") frequency reverts to the default (200MHz) value.

I've just reread your original post, and it's strange for the BIOS to report no change in the CPU multiplier, while Everest has it set at the default max multiplier. I'm not familiar with your BIOS, but perhaps it's got an OC setting parameter affecting CPU multipliers set on "Auto." This is a total stab in the dark, by the way.

What does Windows say your CPU Frequency is?

Also, have you tried other settings ID applications (CPU-Z, specifically) to confirm what Everest is (apparently mis)reporting?

Finally, about temperatures: My opinion is that if your system is rock-stable at load, temperatures aren't that critical. A point to remember is that sometimes sensors aren't calibrated properly. Operational stability is more important (to me) than reported temperatures.

Hope you find a solution eventually.
    
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Thanks for the reply. Interestingly, Windows reports 2.6ghz. I wouldn't have thought to look at that. But CPU-Z, Speedfan and Everest are all reporting the change to 2.8ghz, plus my SuperPi times have increased beyond the best I ever saw at a 2.7ghz OC.

I'm sure Windows is just showing the last speed that it booted with whereas the others are actually taking current readings.

The bios does have an auto setting, but for the overclock I have it specified to 11x in the bios. In fact the whole OC was done in the bios vs. using software. When I've used software to Overclock like Ntune or ClockGen, the system won't come out of Standby.

Must be some sort of issue related to standby is all I can figure. And I would guess based on your reply and the lack of others that there is probably no fix. I was worried about temps, but I like your response. I always wondered how we could see such low reports on temps. Living in Az doesn't help, but I keep the ambient room temp around 76F or 24C. I guess if the temps aren't too bad, then I'm just as happy to keep it at this 2.8ghz - the happy plus to it all
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Couple of things you might check:
Do you have Cool'n'quiet enabled? I have run into some strange clock issues with C&Q. If it is enabled try and disable it a to see what happens.

Also check your temps with "Core Temp". It is much more accurate than others IMO.
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