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I currently have the 4200+ Manchester processor @ 2.53 GHz and it runs pretty fast for how dated it is now. If I were to go out and buy the Opteron 165 processor around my B-Day once I get the cash, would I see much of a performance hop for games and overall system speed? I might even go out and buy better DDR ram that would replace my crap 215 MHz max speed SuperTalent PC3200 ram.
    
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yes, the Opty will make a difference, esp. with better RAM.

However, for probably about the same price as the Opty, you can get an X2 3600+ Brisbane, a Biostar tForce 550 and 2GB DDR2 RAM. That combination will probably perform as well as the Opty, and you'll be more futureproof.

Also, if that's a single X1900 Crossfire Edition yuou have, you might want to consider selling it. You still can get a good price for it, and with some extra money you can afford an 8800GTS.
    
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Going to an Opteron 165 is a lateral move at best unless you're able to extract more MHz from it than your Manchester. The only difference between the Denmark (Toledo) and Manchester core CPUs is the L2 cache; the Denmark has 2 x 1MB L2 cache, and the Manchester has 2 x 512KB. In real world performance, there's very little difference between the two, according to most reports.

If you're dying to spend the money, I'd recommend getting better RAM myself.

Of course, there will be people saying that the Opteron will likely overclock to a higher speed. If your motherboard is able to scale up with its HT frequency ("FSB"), then an Opteron 165 wouldn't be a bad buy. (The 165 almost requires a motherboard with high HT capability because of the 9x multiplier.)

Hope this helps!
    
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I believe he has a single core Manchester... his specs do not state 'X2'.
    
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I believe he has a single core Manchester... his specs do not state 'X2'.
I don't think there's a single-core 4200+...
    
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I really would like to get a faster processor but I don't really know if sticking to the 939 socket would be such a good idea or not? I really would like to get a core 2 duo processor, very nice DDR2 ram for a cheap price, and a good motherboard that has all the quad core capabilities. I would have to say that I would spend $400 if needed but there really isn't any games that I still can't run and have fun with. If anyone knows of a setup that would get me very good DDR2 ram, a motherboard that is a best for overclocking, and a core2duo processor that would overclock to crazy levels all for under $400, please let me know.
    
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It's a 939 socket 4200+X2 processor. There is no such thing as a single core 4200+.
    
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For cheap, awesome performance, I would go with an AM2 Brisbane and a DFI Infinity nForce 570 with 2GB of DDR2-800. That would barely put you a little over 300 bucks.

Even a better overclocking board is the DFI Lanparty NF590 though... it's like 60 bucks more expensive but it'll get that brisbane way up there. Just ask shifty
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As stated above, its a virtually pointless move. You might squeeze 300mhz more out of an Opty - but at this stage there isnt any point trying to upgrade on 939 anymore. You already have a good processor for the socket.

A better move would be using that money for a decent AM2 mobo, some decent RAM and a Brisbane X2 3600+. Clock that up to 2.8-3ghz coupled with DDR2 RAM you would see a better performance boost, and you would be in a position to upgrade to AMD's Phenom processors later this year, either X2 or X4
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