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OC Workbench have gotten hold of a 45W Phenom BE-2350 processor. Curiosity behind this being that those 45W 'Brisbane' (or so we assume) core CPU's have not yet been released. As you've no doubt noticed, i've used AMD's new naming system - Phenom BE-2350 translates into Athlon 64 X2 4000+. Other rumors we reported have also come true like the chips clock speeds of 2.1GHz, which has now been clarified by a CPU-Z screenshot. The version shown has a core voltage of 1.152V, and 1MB of level two cache. AMD is also scheduled to release BE-2300 and BE-2400 models operating at 1.9GHz and 2.3GHz respectively.
In case you missed our 'AMD to drop Athlon name' story here is a quick recap. "Although the Athlon name is still existent on midrange products, Phenom (abbreviated version of the word "phenomenal") will represent all high end parts, leaving Sempron for entry level parts. In the coming weeks, Dual-core processors will be dubbed Phenom X2, quad-core Agena will receive the name Phenom X4, and Agena FX and its family will receive the brand name Phenom FX."
Source: www.pureoverclock.com
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Does anyone know how these compare to Athlons of the same clock speed and how well will they overclock with good cooling? (hopefully they won't all be hitting the same 3Ghz barrier as the Athlons)
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Pretty awesome, nice find.

These will be a lot of fun to hit some Ghz records i reckon. Sorta like the celerons or the Pentium D's.
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Originally Posted by Dennisjr13 View Post
Does anyone know how these compare to Athlons of the same clock speed and how well will they overclock with good cooling? (hopefully they won't all be hitting the same 3Ghz barrier as the Athlons)
3Ghz barrier?... Windsor can hit 3.5Ghz...

Nice to see AMD flashing their new goodies around.
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Nobody will contest that the Intel chips OC better than AMD's, but IMO the AMD's are OC-ing better than ever. It used to be a big deal if you got an X2 that would do 3.0Ghz, I remember people used to go all nuts on stepping charts and such just to find a decent chip. Nowadays, just buy any old brisbane and a good mobo and you're set, even possibly on air. I rarely hear of a bad OC'er. Many are hitting 3.2 or even more on water.
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IMO it's a waste- 1MB of L2 is simply not enough in today's power (resource)-hungry applications. Again, I can't necessarily prove that 2MB has an advantage (I don't want to look for an article on it), but does it not stand to reason that 2MB is better than one?
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IMO it's a waste- 1MB of L2 is simply not enough in today's power (resource)-hungry applications. Again, I can't necessarily prove that 2MB has an advantage (I don't want to look for an article on it), but does it not stand to reason that 2MB is better than one?
Lol bigger is better man! Thats why were going to 4 cores instead of 2!
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IMO it's a waste- 1MB of L2 is simply not enough in today's power (resource)-hungry applications. Again, I can't necessarily prove that 2MB has an advantage (I don't want to look for an article on it), but does it not stand to reason that 2MB is better than one?
I though the IMC reduced the importance of big caches?
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IMO it's a waste- 1MB of L2 is simply not enough in today's power (resource)-hungry applications. Again, I can't necessarily prove that 2MB has an advantage (I don't want to look for an article on it), but does it not stand to reason that 2MB is better than one?

Read the magic word;
IMC


AMD's cpus are not bootlenecked by the ancient FSB. They have IMC and Hypertransport So they do not need large caches to cover up the huge latencies.

On K8 architecture (and K10 i believe) with same frequency the bigger 1MB(over the "standard" 512KB) cache offers performance boost of 200MHz.
Not big deal compared to noticeably bigger heat output and bigger TDP.
    
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Read the magic word;
IMC


AMD's cpus are not bootlenecked by the ancient FSB. They have IMC and Hypertransport So they do not need large caches to cover up the huge latencies.
Ancient FSB? Is that why AMD CPUs are the fastest CPUs still around? ......................

Any real concrete word on these things, or just flashes so far?
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