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post #11 of 19
try running at a lower multi and loosening your ram timings as far as you can, upping the FSB bit by bit, test on orthos every 30-50mhz FSB and when it shuts down after <1hr orthos bring the FSB down. and start to tighten the timings from there.

hope this helps.

ViRuS
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bad news, teh RAM is the root of my oc'n problems so i just went down to 333fsb for a clock of 3ghz and reduced the RAM down to 667(i kno, below stock) 4-4-4-15. teh core is running @1.35v rather tahn >1.5v i dint thing 300 more mhz was worth teh heat and vots for now. if I get a set of HZs and my tuniq back i'll go back tehre again tho, doubtful i'll be upgrading my PC anytime soon; money is getting tight... however i could probably get a summer job
Welcome to my stepping nightmare (see rig details below). I feel like I've been raped sometimes. I don't know if dropping the multi is the best of ideas. Here's a thread by Pauldovi on it (excellent read): http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...rclocking.html

I'm curius to see where you end up. Best of luck.
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post #13 of 19
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recent helpful psters got rep, thx guys.

I'm actulyl running @ near stock now. I can't get this *hitty RAM to OC for crap anymore. if it's OC'd at all teh computer requires a very complex boot sequence to say teh least.

Some money may be coming my way soon, so maybe a HD2900 and HZs and even a new CPU possibly are on my horizon...
post #14 of 19
yeah, im uncertain on dropping the multi, but i hear it requires less volts, but a higher FSB, so give and take in practise.
however, less volts = less heat = higher overclock possible off lower volts.
btw, well done for 3.0ghz. not a bad job at all, congrats =]
im still stuck on overclocking celly 340mhz to 620mhz on l2n and water teehee. i wouldnt advise on using l2n naked as it freezes the carpet.

ViRuS
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yeah, im uncertain on dropping the multi, but i hear it requires less volts, but a higher FSB, so give and take in practise.
however, less volts = less heat = higher overclock possible off lower volts.
btw, well done for 3.0ghz. not a bad job at all, congrats =]
im still stuck on overclocking celly 340mhz to 620mhz on l2n and water teehee. i wouldnt advise on using l2n naked as it freezes the carpet.

ViRuS
ROFL!

now, taht's self-ownage.

have fun w/ teh old celly. u should OC a p4 pressy on ln2. like 5-8ghz, yea... real high up there.

anyway I got my mobo back from newegg's RMA dept. they sent me a ds3 rev. 3.3 but It's a OEM, openbox/refurb, barebone. w/ no cables, nothing, i'll be calling them 2day.
post #16 of 19
What's the batch code on your E6600?

Anything L7-up is harder to OC lately. I haven't gotten an L7 that couldn't post past 3.2 (800x6) without 1.5 voltage in it.

If you have a 628 or lower (24, 26, 22) then you should be able to hit 3.5-3.6 with 1.5 voltage.

Also, never take your memory multiplier higher than 2 or 1:1 ratio. Your memory gets no benefit to running on a higher multiplier. It will always only run as fast as your FSB is. The only thing you get by raising your memory multiplier is looser memory timings, because anything higher than 1066 with 6-6-6-18 will need Micron D9GKT or D9GMH in order to run well and get tighter timings.

With standard performance DDR2 800 (Binned Infineon or standard Micron D9 IC's or Elpida binned) will be able to run 667 or 800 with 4-4-4-12 or sometimes even 4-3-3-10 (On Micron D9's) and that will perform better than 1109MHZ ram with 6-6-6-18 timings. If you can get a 1T command rate, that's even better, but I don't recommend trying it.

Find out what your stock memory voltage is before you assume that +.4 voltage turns it into 2.2. I believe 965P's run 1.8 which would make you right, but you have to find out for yourself. I can't remember ASUS P5B's very well.

Also, go back to the basics. Take your multi down to 6 and crank that FSB up little by little and find your FSB hole. It's easy to get confused thinking a FSB hole is the same as a wall when it's not. That's just your VCC messing with you, making you think that you've hit the wall when you've really just hit a frequency drop at a certain FSB setting. Setting the multi to 6 will let you find the hole and just go past it. Usually holes are 15-25mhz so if you find your hole at 345-360, try setting your FSB to 365 and then shoot from there.

Also, always run Memtest86 to see if your ram is stable at the timings and voltage you give it. Anything higher than 2.2 voltage is a bad idea in my opinion. Anything higher than 1.5 voltage to the CPU is a bad idea to me too.
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What's the batch code on your E6600?

Anything L7-up is harder to OC lately. I haven't gotten an L7 that couldn't post past 3.2 (800x6) without 1.5 voltage in it.

If you have a 628 or lower (24, 26, 22) then you should be able to hit 3.5-3.6 with 1.5 voltage.

Also, never take your memory multiplier higher than 2 or 1:1 ratio. Your memory gets no benefit to running on a higher multiplier. It will always only run as fast as your FSB is. The only thing you get by raising your memory multiplier is looser memory timings, because anything higher than 1066 with 6-6-6-18 will need Micron D9GKT or D9GMH in order to run well and get tighter timings.

With standard performance DDR2 800 (Binned Infineon or standard Micron D9 IC's or Elpida binned) will be able to run 667 or 800 with 4-4-4-12 or sometimes even 4-3-3-10 (On Micron D9's) and that will perform better than 1109MHZ ram with 6-6-6-18 timings. If you can get a 1T command rate, that's even better, but I don't recommend trying it.

Find out what your stock memory voltage is before you assume that +.4 voltage turns it into 2.2. I believe 965P's run 1.8 which would make you right, but you have to find out for yourself. I can't remember ASUS P5B's very well.

Also, go back to the basics. Take your multi down to 6 and crank that FSB up little by little and find your FSB hole. It's easy to get confused thinking a FSB hole is the same as a wall when it's not. That's just your VCC messing with you, making you think that you've hit the wall when you've really just hit a frequency drop at a certain FSB setting. Setting the multi to 6 will let you find the hole and just go past it. Usually holes are 15-25mhz so if you find your hole at 345-360, try setting your FSB to 365 and then shoot from there.

Also, always run Memtest86 to see if your ram is stable at the timings and voltage you give it. Anything higher than 2.2 voltage is a bad idea in my opinion. Anything higher than 1.5 voltage to the CPU is a bad idea to me too.
Wow! thx. rep+

teh code on it is L624A819


and i kno for a fact that my RAM is rly holding me vack so i basically said screw it and am running @ stock for now. The HZs on the egg are so cheap too! like 110 and i can't afford taht even. and I still ahve to invest in about 20-40bux worth in fans and stuff to get a 1.2 cleron looking pwnsome. I'm thinking abotu giving taht system to my GF for her b-day considering she's got like a 800mhz p3 right now w/ like 120mb of ram :/

anyway. thx for teh suggestion! i was actulyl afraid of lowering my multi too much, hah.
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Wow! thx. rep+

teh code on it is L624A819


and i kno for a fact that my RAM is rly holding me vack so i basically said screw it and am running @ stock for now. The HZs on the egg are so cheap too! like 110 and i can't afford taht even. and I still ahve to invest in about 20-40bux worth in fans and stuff to get a 1.2 cleron looking pwnsome. I'm thinking abotu giving taht system to my GF for her b-day considering she's got like a 800mhz p3 right now w/ like 120mb of ram :/

anyway. thx for teh suggestion! i was actulyl afraid of lowering my multi too much, hah.
L624A is a GREAT chip. Can OC as high as 3.6 on 1.5 voltage easily with some Micron D9's under the table.

I recommend you sell your Gigabyte PK's and try to get some HZ's. It won't be that expensive of an upgrade. Also lap your heatsink, not your processor, but your heatsink. If you lap that alone you can squeeze a few C drops in load temps.

Honestly though, with a 9x multiplier on the 6600, you should be able to try a 375 or 350 FSB on the 9x multi. I don't know why you wouldn't be able to squeeze that out of it. DDR2 800 can run at 400 FSB at stock timings.
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L624A is a GREAT chip. Can OC as high as 3.6 on 1.5 voltage easily with some Micron D9's under the table.

I recommend you sell your Gigabyte PK's and try to get some HZ's. It won't be that expensive of an upgrade. Also lap your heatsink, not your processor, but your heatsink. If you lap that alone you can squeeze a few C drops in load temps.

Honestly though, with a 9x multiplier on the 6600, you should be able to try a 375 or 350 FSB on the 9x multi. I don't know why you wouldn't be able to squeeze that out of it. DDR2 800 can run at 400 FSB at stock timings.

I got to 367 @ like 1.525 stable for a while. actully I could have probably have been stable @ 1.5v.
odd(not literally like 3, 7, etc.) FSB freqencies on my RAM jsut don't run. i can put the timings in the cieling w/ +.1 or +.2 over stock specs on the RAM and it jsut won't run right. usually won't even post. I've actulyl had the RAM @ 1100 w/ like 6-8-8-24 timings or higher w/ +.4v(should be 2.2v but w/ vdroop it was liek 2.1v) and it was stable for awhile. but this RAM is wierd. plus I would always have to boot, it'd reboot(byitself) like 4 times, i'd have to hold teh power button down for 4 secs then go into the bios, set the FSB back and then i'd be good2go @ that speed agin, wierd i know.

I've also run it @ 400x8 @ 1:1 on the ram but I can't remember exactly waht happend but it was wierd... I think i needed liek .2v extra on the FSB and the CPU needed some volts too. also the onyl program that picked the OC up right was cpu-z
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