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Originally Posted by pauldovi View Post
Intel Ultra Low Voltage Dual Cores use significantly less power. Some even less than 1 watt.
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At load or idle? Which ones?
Idle. Add 15 watts for the memory controller.

Via C7-M:
< 1 watt idle
< 7 watts load
Average 1-3 watts

Intel:
< "1 watt" idle
< 30 watts load
Average 10-15 watts

Of course, the Intel one gives you about 4 times the performance...maybe even more.
     
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well put Kramy
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Another official announcement was the note of a new ultra low voltage Intel Core Duo processor, which the company claims will consume just about 0.75 watts on average "while still delivering high-performing computing power." Sources told TG daily that this new processor will be named Core Duo U2500, has a clock speed of 1.06 GHz and uses 2 MB L2 cache and a 533 MHz FSB. The chip will be priced at $289 at launch sometime this summer
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Intel's U2500 Core Duo Yonah processor was released just a few weeks ago. The chip marked Intel's first attempt at a dual-core ultra low-wattage CPU, and has thus far made quite a splash in the x86 world. So much so that Intel has decided to release an even lower wattage version, the U2400.

The dual-core 65nm Yonah-based U2400 features a 1.06GHz clock frequency, a 533MHz front-side bus and 2MB of shared L2 cache. Intel has not released TDP specifics of the new processor, but the TDP of the 1.2GHz Core Duo U2500 was a mere 9 Watts. During normal operation the U2500 uses less than a Watt.
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Originally Posted by Kramy
Idle. Add 15 watts for the memory controller.

Via C7-M:
< 1 watt idle
< 7 watts load
Average 1-3 watts

Intel:
< "1 watt" idle
< 30 watts load
Average 10-15 watts

Of course, the Intel one gives you about 4 times the performance...maybe even more.
Do you have proof of this?

The processor uses on average .75 Watts. I don't believe that a mobile chipset uses more than a few watts.
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Do you have proof of this?

The processor uses on average .75 Watts. I don't believe that a mobile chipset uses more than a few watts.
No. Do you have proof of it? Intel has been making low wattage claims for a while - ever since the original Core 1's. At least VIA backs it up their claims with proof. (test systems provided to reviewers & displayed at tech conferences)

People have built VIA systems that runs off 65w/35w PSUs. There's a 15.4" VIA laptop that gets nearly 6 hours of battery life on an 8/9 cell Li-Ion battery, while having wireless enabled, and while doing stuff. That's 7-8 hours of idle time, or about 4-4.5 hours of DVD watching.

I'm not saying Intel isn't good at power management - they seem to be better at it than AMD - but I am alledging that their claims are false, and their numbers made up, and that VIA is still superior if you don't care about the performance.
     
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how low is 9 watts is that to the piont where you dont need a heat sink any more.I remember the days of the Pentium 1 where you didint need a heat sink.
    
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post #26 of 31
9 watts average?

I want that in my laptop! So I can get a even longer battery life than my 7.5 hours I get currently.

edit: nvm...the Pentium M ULV is 10 watts TDP anyway...
    
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how low is 9 watts is that to the piont where you dont need a heat sink any more.I remember the days of the Pentium 1 where you didint need a heat sink.
lol, nah. They're even lower.

If I remember right, the Pentium 166 and 200HZ (still have about 5 around ) were like 12-13 watts. And ran on like.... 3 volts (though I used to oc at that so it was prolly less, I dunno, maybe about 2.8v)

But yeah, these chips use less voltage, and use less power. NOt to mention - they consequently emit less heat.
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post #28 of 31
Get some uber cooling and OC it like crazy since 9W=less heat.


9W is a little, wow...lol My laptop CPU runs at around 27W
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Unfortunately, those don't run fast enough for me to consider them competition to VIA. 1.3 watts max is great, but when you're only running 400mhz, that's easily doable. VIA is managing ~1ghz with 1 watt, 1.5ghz with ~3 watts, 1.5ghz with ~7 watts. That is an incredibly small amount of leakage!

For the record, anything under ~5 watts can easily run on Tiny-Aluminum-HS passive cooling, in a box with no airflow. Anything above(7-30 watts?) needs slight airflow.


I was just checking VIA's site, and stumbled across this:
http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives...head/pico-itx/

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