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I have seen time and time again ppl recommending overclockable ram, this is ok if your on an AMD platform that's bandwidth hungry. But i want to know why it is being recommend for Intel systems.....especially on the 680i chipset?

I mean what is the benefit of PC2 8500 ram if you don't have a FSB of 533Mhz?

This is something i need answering once and for all....+rep to anyone that has an answer to how this type of ram would benefit me?
 
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C'mon, i'm not letting this one lie.....

Explain godammit! lol
 
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It won't really benefit someone who has a low FSB. You can run higher ratios like 1:2, 1:3, etc...

That just increases bandwidth though.
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It won't really benefit someone who has a low FSB. You can run higher ratios like 1:2, 1:3, etc...

That just increases bandwidth though.
But this increased bandwidth surely effects overall frame rate?
 
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Originally Posted by Mhill2029 View Post
But this increased bandwidth surely effects overall frame rate?
I don't think you can really notice the difference. The only reason why I'd get that high-speed ram is to achieve ram world records.

Most good PC2-6400 kits can achieve those speeds without a problem.
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As far I know, AMD rigs are NOT bandwidth hungry, but love tight timings, while Intel rigs are the ones that LOVE bandwidth and don't care so much about timings....

That's why for AMD I recommend DDR2 667 with CAS4 or better, while for Core 2 Duo I recommend DDR2 800 (CAS4) that overclocks to over DDR2 1000 speeds.

I did tests with RAM at DDR2 667 (1:1) and DDR2 1000 (1:2) speeds (Everything else equal, includign timings), and had a 0.3 seconds advantage in SuperPi 1MB times, but NO advantage in 3DMark06.

I don't think RAM is *that* big a deal in gaming. It doesn't seem to be a bottleneck, so increased RAM speed doesn't do a whole lot for frame rates.
    
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You can see increased memory bandwidth in benchmarks. Will you see a great fps increase from 800 to 1066? I doubt it. But if you are "encoding" video and the like I like to tell myself it helps.
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I don't think you can really notice the difference. The only reason why I'd get that high-speed ram is to achieve ram world records.

Most good PC2-6400 kits can achieve those speeds without a problem.
I did notice that when i did tests in 3DMark05 & 06 3.4Ghz 1512Mhz(QDR) and 3.6Ghz 1600Mhz(QDR) the difference was a tiny 300points
 
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I did notice that when i did tests in 3DMark05 & 06 3.4Ghz 1512Mhz(QDR) and 3.6Ghz 1600Mhz(QDR) the difference was a tiny 400points
.. and that's probably only because of the increased CPU clock.
    
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.. and that's probably only because of the increased CPU clock.
Yep...But i also ran my ram at DDR2 950Mhz speeds Unlinked, and noticed nothing......absolutely nothing.

So why do ppl recommend kick ass ram?
 
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