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Anybody ever used this board? I haven't got it fired up yet because I have yet to buy memory and a graphics card for it..but could anybody tell me about it? Asus's website made it look like an amazing board but I haven't heard of alot of people using it. Also, if someone could find me Crucial or Corsair pc6400 ddr2 for cheap let me know(preferrably 2gb).

I have another issue also..I'm new to the PCI-E slot. Could someone tell me is my AGP card useless with this board? Also, my CL Soundblaster Audigy2 is still good with this board too right? If so, should my Audigy2 soundcard be better than the graphics card that comes with the Asus Commando? I don't understand the deal with the X16 and X2 speeds means. One final question..If I use the passive cooler does that mean that I do not use the heatsink and fan that goes directly on my processor!!? That's how the manual makes it sound. It says that the passive cooler must be used in junction with the water cooler or whatever and not to use cpu cooling because it could interrupt airflow.
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You are going to need a Pci-e card agp is not compatible w/ this board. Not sure if an audigy 2 is really better than the onboard that comes w/ it the onboard sound that asus is using w/ this board actually plugs into the pcie 1x slot and has pretty good reviews. I am not sure what the deal is w/ the x16 and x4 means, I assume that it means in SLI one card is at 16x and one at 4x. I'm not quite sure what you are reffering to w/ the passive cooling.
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Anybody ever used this board? I haven't got it fired up yet because I have yet to buy memory and a graphics card for it..but could anybody tell me about it? Asus's website made it look like an amazing board but I haven't heard of alot of people using it.
No, don't have it. And probably not many do, since Asus makes another amazing board with the same chipset: Asus P5B Deluxe, which delivers the same performance, but is cheaper. However, it's a GREAT board. you'll enjoy it.

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Also, if someone could find me Crucial or Corsair pc6400 ddr2 for cheap let me know(preferrably 2gb).
I am no fan of Corsair. My picks would either be Crucial or G.skill.
The Crucial goes for $140 on Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146565

So my current pick would be the G.Skill HZ kit, at a price of $110. This kit has Micron D9's and overclocks very well:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065

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I have another issue also..I'm new to the PCI-E slot. Could someone tell me is my AGP card useless with this board?
Yep, the AGP card is useless. You'll need a PCI-E x16 card. No way around this one. Depending whether you're a gamer or not, you can spend as little as $40 and as much as over $1,000 for a card.

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Also, my CL Soundblaster Audigy2 is still good with this board too right? If so, should my Audigy2 soundcard be better than the graphics card that comes with the Asus Commando?
The card will work. Soundquality will probably be slightly better with the Audigy card, but more importantly, the Audigy will relieve a little burden from the CPU.

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I don't understand the deal with the X16 and X2 speeds means.
I assume you're referring to PCI-E here? PCI-E comes at a variety of speeds, ranging from x1 to x16, where the number indicates the number of available lanes. The more lanes, the faster the PCI-E port. Read here for more info: http://www.directron.com/expressguide.html. Given the bi-directionality of the PCI-E bus, PCI-E x4 is nearly the same as AGP x8. Oh, and yes. The Commando can run in Crossfire, but only in x16, x4 mode (i.e. first PCI-E x16 slot runs on 16 lanes, while the second one runs on 4 lanes.) This is a limitation of the chipset design, which doesn't offer enough lanes to run both x16 slots at actual x16 speeds at the same time.


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One final question..If I use the passive cooler does that mean that I do not use the heatsink and fan that goes directly on my processor!!? That's how the manual makes it sound. It says that the passive cooler must be used in junction with the water cooler or whatever and not to use cpu cooling because it could interrupt airflow.
NO. The passive cooling is for mosfets and other parts of the mobo near the CPU socket. When you use air cooling, you are NOT to use this passive cooling solution, since it will interrupt airflow from the CPU cooler, and possible cause your CPU to overheat. Also, the airflow created by the CPU cooler will make sure the motherboard parts stay cool enough. When you watercool, it's recommended to use the passive cooler, since there is no airflow to keep those motherboard parts cool. Thus, it's sort of the other way around than you said. If you use the CPU cooler, then DON'T use the passive cooler.

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Chozart you went with a P5N32-E! Nice to see you've joined the club.

I agree with Chozarts points except from an overclocking perspective. The Commando can hit higher FSB than the P5B Deluxe (although you need to know your stuff to get there). Try extremesystems.org. There are a couple of extensive threads on the commando.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=asus+commando

Here is the link.

600 FSB is nothing to sneeze at. I'd like to see a P5B Deluxe do that.
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I think you'll like the Commando, I like mine alot . I also have a p5b deluxe (which also is very good), and they're right it's a very similar board. Commando is essentially a p5b deluxe, but with a few things added or enhanced. Some things with board layout have also changed.

Biggest difference, it's a tweakers dream for OC options in the bios. There are more OC options in the bios than I've ever seen on a board . The p5b deluxe has good options too don't get me wrong, but you can really control alot on the Commando. Many of them argueably useless, but nonetheless like said this board can really OC. Not only can you control more things, but the range of voltages is more, and at smaller increments. This is a board to be fine tuned no doubt. Of course you don't have to fine tune, like most boards you can keep everything or most things on auto if you want, but what a waste with this board !

Keep in mind, like chozart said, in many many cases the p5b deluxe will give you the same performance. Either board will go so high on fsb, that unless you're on phase or something, you will almost for sure max your cpu before the mobo even sweats . Cpu with low multi would be the only challenger, or lower-multi-fsb freaks who want that little extra.

I'm probably missing some other subtle differences between them, but couple other small things:
-Commando has lighted reset, power, and clear cmos buttons on the board
-There's a backlit lcd on the Commando that can tell you status like say a memory error, not sure everything it can tell you.
-Commando uses all aluminum caps on the entire board, p5b deluxe has some around cpu area, the rest are standard electrolytic caps. No big diff, but anyway.
-The sata and ide connectors are now edge connectors, so the cables go up to the side of the mobo horizontally. Little harder to connect them once the mobo is in the case, but cable management freaks would like this.
-There's a couple external connections p5b deluxe has, that Commando doesn't. Like com port (whoever the heck needs that anymore I don't know), and external sata (which I could see being useful but I've never used mine). Also there is no wi-fi on Commando (I have wi-fi version of p5b deluxe).
-The stock heatsink/pipe system is a little better on Commando vs P5b deluxe. The southbridge now gets a heat pipe to connect it with the others. Also the sinks themselves are better too.

If I think of anything else I'll post it up, these are just some things off the top of my head. Let us know how it does for you, or if you need help with bios let me know . Personally, if I had to get another c2d board and all they had was p5b deluxe and commando, I'd get the commando again. If it were for someone else who wasn't really an enthusiast, but wanted to OC some, I'd get the p5b deluxe cause it's great too. I have seen some people have trouble OC'ing this board, it's a little trickier than some. I believe some reports of poor OC's with this board come down to user error, as far as bios settings etc. I love my Commando though, I hope yours treats you right too bud!

I also agree with Chozart about the sound, I would ditch the onboard for the Audigy2, quite nice card, I have one too. And like he says, it's dedicated so the sound card will do all the sound processing, instead of using up resources. Granted onboard sound isn't much of an impact on system performance for a newer system, but go with the card and disable onboard in bios. And also the rams are top notch, Crucial Ballistix and Gskill HZ's are two of the best you can get. Honestly myself I'd chose the Ballistix, but for the price I'd have to go with the HZ's, wow ram prices have really plummeted lately!!
    
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not many have the commando cause its expensive . never the less its a great board and Ocing with it is a peace of cake (thanks to its great stability &rich bios features) ..

have fun

PS: at first youll need some patience to learn how to use the bios fully (fine tuning etc), took me a 2/3 days to figure it all but in the end its realy worth it.
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i almost bought the p5b deluxe! but I found the Commando for 163 dollars on ebay and the p5b deluxes were ranging about 140-150 so I took the Commando. Are the newer ATI Radeons really good video cards? Never had one made from ATI themselves..only had their chipsets on a couple of cards. I looked at the X1600 but wasn't sure if that was good enough for multitasking and watching divx movies or for games like ghost recon advanced warfighter, diablo and such.
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I'd look for something a little more powerful than the X1600.

The X1950PRO is priced quite nicely... $159.99 for the 512MB version:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127246
    
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I almost went with the Commando, but it was too inexpensive for me , so I grabbed a P5B Premium to pair up with the quad core(Q6600 or QX6700) I am getting next month. Also because the Commando is not listed as having a new BIOS available to support 1333FSB for the new quad's from Intel. I'll likely get one of the P5K boards next year for those anyway, but it's nice to have options.
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