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post #11 of 21
There's no reason to be mad about tags ID'ing the downloader. There is no way that you can construe that as being restrictive to use - only piracy.

I'm sure it will be very easy to remove either way
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This is what FRAPS(screen-recording software) does. Every installer and downloaded patch is tailored to whoever purchased it.
     
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post #13 of 21
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Not if you re-encoded it into AAC of the same bitrate. Essentially just getting rid of the buyer info.
You still lose quality whenever you re-encode to a lossy format. Whether or not you notice it is subjective, but you will not get an identical bitstream.

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There's no reason to be mad about tags ID'ing the downloader. There is no way that you can construe that as being restrictive to use - only piracy.
Yeah, agreed. As long as you don't illegally share you music I see no problem with having the ID tag.

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I'm sure it will be very easy to remove either way
Assuming its just a tag and not a digital watermark (meaning the data is imprinted into the music itself in a way that is not noticeable), you could probably just overwrite the binary that stores it and not worry about re-encoding which would lower the quality.
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post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by ChimeraSpore View Post
Bingo... it's just would-be pirates bitc*ing. The only time I'd
be pissed is if you paid for DRM free music and they prevented
you from burning them, which... well kind of defeats the purpose.
i would say atleast 85-90% of music downloaders "pirate" and use p2p applications, so most of the music community is upset, they just don't know it until they have someone kicking down their door sueing them....too bad kids don't pay attention to news or it would be alot easier to prevent being trapped...
post #15 of 21
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You still lose quality whenever you re-encode to a lossy format. Whether or not you notice it is subjective, but you will not get an identical bitstream.



Yeah, agreed. As long as you don't illegally share you music I see no problem with having the ID tag.



Assuming its just a tag and not a digital watermark (meaning the data is imprinted into the music itself in a way that is not noticeable), you could probably just overwrite the binary that stores it and not worry about re-encoding which would lower the quality.
so how about all those people that just give one or 2 friends a song or two for their mp3 player, and then the music labels sue them because they illegally shared them??? it is a crazy idea but guarantee it would happen if the companies found out....all they want is money, they don't care how "deep" you are in music trading
post #16 of 21
Really only the people sharing these tracks are at risk. It doesn't have the downloader's information on it. I don't download music at all, <3 CD's
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by Chopes View Post
Doesn't tunebite strip the encoding just by re-encoding it... I don't have itunes nor an Ipod, speculation from my part.
No.

tunebite plays the song at 4x its speed and simultaneously records a copy of it through your soundcard's output. Basically, it records a DRM free version of the song because it is simply recording what would be going out through your speakers. It works quite well.
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Thats what I meant...
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post #19 of 21
Havent songs from Itunes always had the user info such as name date of purchase etc. Mine have anyway.

The only differences should be the quality and the ablilty to convert the song format directly in Itunes without having to burn to and rip from a cd. Havent given it a try yet.

The 256 bit songs do sound slightly better, and only 30 cents more. Cant wait till they release the 320 bit ones for only 30 more cents.
    
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post #20 of 21
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so how about all those people that just give one or 2 friends a song or two for their mp3 player, and then the music labels sue them because they illegally shared them??? it is a crazy idea but guarantee it would happen if the companies found out....all they want is money, they don't care how "deep" you are in music trading
That's still illegal. How can you fault apple for embedding info that can be used to counter piracy and does not restrict legal usage
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