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I have tearing on LCDs and have that CRTs have the same issue because the science behind it is that the system is outputting more frames than the monitor can keep up with.

That being said LCDs can only go to 75Hz (at least my Viewsonic VX922 can) but a lot of CRTs can get up to 160Hz.

Is it safe to say that the higher refresh rate the better?

Meaning are CRTs free from Tearing and I boned myself by spending $200 on a LCD?

Any thoughts?
    
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Yea they do.

Vsync or capping you frames at your monitors refresh rate is the only way to fix it.

You won't find any CRTs that have a 160Hz refresh rate on a resolution greater then 1600x1200. Atleast none that are anywhere near affordable.

Just turn on Vsync and triple buffering.
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post #3 of 11
Yep, CRT's tear too.
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But if I cap at 160Hz at 1280x1024 (which I prefer playing at) wont I at least get 160FPS?

My only concern is am I bottlenecking my system?
    
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Ya, they do....but you didn't waste your money. Just turn on vsync. Also, most people like LCDs better because of less space, better viewing experience (less headaches, sore eyes), and more accurate picture out of the box...

So no...you spent your money well.

You're not really bottlenecking your system...you're just limiting it to only go that high in terms of FPS...(you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyways since it would only display that many fps anyways.... (limit it to 160 and the highest you can get is 160)...don't limit it to 160 and your refresh is 160, you're still limited to 160, just they may not match up perfectly.)

Most games won't give you 160 anyways...and also...why 1280x1024 on a CRT? That's kinda awful...

Use the LCD you bought..
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Originally Posted by Nechen View Post
But if I cap at 160Hz at 1280x1024 (which I prefer playing at) wont I at least get 160FPS?

My only concern is am I bottlenecking my system?
Yea then vsync will allow you to get up to 160FSP.. but why? The human eye cannot tell the difference after around 60.

You are bottlenecking your system by running a resolution of 1280x1024 on a 8800GTX. That card shows its colors at about 1600x1200. Or 1680x1050.

TBH I find it a sin to be running a 8800GTX on such a low resolution...
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$!@#!@#*!@#* I cant believe I bought a monitor at 1280x1024...

I suck at life lol

should I have gotten a widescreen?
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nechen View Post
$!@#!@#*!@#* I cant believe I bought a monitor at 1280x1024...

I suck at life lol

should I have gotten a widescreen?
Well there isn't really a "bottleneck" unless you have 2 GTX. But I still find running 1280x1024 on a 8800GTX kind of.. well.. thats a pretty low resolution for such a high end card.

1680x1050 is what I would recommend. (Widescreen)

I was running 1920x1200 on my 8800GTX, however I got 2 cards because 1920x1200 was kind of hard on one. However, 1920x1200 resolution monitors are extremely expensive around $700.
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^- Listen to him about the monitors. Those are right up your alley.
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post #10 of 11
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Ok well do you guys suffer from tearing on your LCDs? I was talking to Nasgul and he said his CRT doesn't tear at all on his 8800GTX when he plays FEAR or whatever.

I dont get this
    
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