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I would go with the 8600GT. It's equal to an 7900GS in performance which right there says alot and the 8600GT is DirectX 10 capable which is another bonus.
...ahh wrong!

the 8600gt is = to a 7600gs
the 8600gts is = to a 7600gt

Due to drivers though the 7600gt will get a higher FPS on most every game, over the 8600gts though.

And to answer your Q- The X1950XT would clean house with any 8600 card. Your comparing a 256bit card to a 128bit card...plus the ATi has got shader performance in the bag.

8600's are ghey!
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Look here, the 8600GT spanks all those cards!
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Ahh. Nice. But wouldn't having half the RAM of the ATi affect it somehow. I mean, I'd like to say to my mates "Aww yeah, I've got 512MB RAM, while you've got 256".
    
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With your resolution, don't bother about the RAM. 256 should be enough.

The real question is whether you plan to play DX10 games.

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...ahh wrong!

the 8600gt is = to a 7600gs
the 8600gts is = to a 7600gt

Due to drivers though the 7600gt will get a higher FPS on most every game, over the 8600gts though.

And to answer your Q- The X1950XT would clean house with any 8600 card. Your comparing a 256bit card to a 128bit card...plus the ATi has got shader performance in the bag.

8600's are ghey!
And where do you get that nonsense from?? At least provide some proof if you make silly statements like that.

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Look here, the 8600GT spanks all those cards!
no it doesnt.

wheres the 7900gs? just FYI, a 7600gt was not even trying to be compared LOL.....
    
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Those benchmark results don't even specify what resolution they were done at (nor system setup, etc.) All I see is a bunch of bar graphs, and not much more detail than that. Besides, for each artificial benchmark someone provides favoring one card, I'm sure there's another one that favors a different card. Don't trust artificial benchmarks.

Basically, if it were me, I'd pick the one with the faster memory interface--sure, they both use GDDR3 memory, but the x1950pro has a 256-bit interface whereas the 8600gt only has 128-bit (btw, why did they do that? It's not like the 8600gt is an old card in the slightest--why not use a 256-bit interface like all the other current cards?). Memory bandwidth should be much higher for the x1950pro--and that's what tends to matter more with newer games that rely on AA and AF (and other memory-intensive tasks) to make the games look good at decent resolutions.

And not to knock the 7600gt--it's still a worthy card--but there's no way it should be getting equal marks in Aquamark as the x1950pro. I don't trust that results link even more now. In the end, it should come down to game performance, not artificial benchmarks, as to whether someone should buy one card over another--while I might be a bit biased being a x1950pro owner myself, I would go for the x1950pro. However, I would also say that $50 less is also not a bad reason to go with the 8600gt. Either will suit your tasks. If you want more VRAM should you choose to buy a larger monitor, then the x1950pro is the obvious choice. Otherwise, you'll probably see the same performance in gaming out of each card.

EDIT--just realized that you said you're not interested in overclocking--in that case, go with the x1950pro--it gives the best out-of-the-box performance by far. Good thing too because they (at least mine) don't OC well at all. Still a good card.
    
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Those benchmark results don't even specify what resolution they were done at (nor system setup, etc.) All I see is a bunch of bar graphs, and not much more detail than that. Besides, for each artificial benchmark someone provides favoring one card, I'm sure there's another one that favors a different card. Don't trust artificial benchmarks.

Basically, if it were me, I'd pick the one with the faster memory interface--sure, they both use GDDR3 memory, but the x1950pro has a 256-bit interface whereas the 8600gt only has 128-bit (btw, why did they do that? It's not like the 8600gt is an old card in the slightest--why not use a 256-bit interface like all the other current cards?). Memory bandwidth should be much higher for the x1950pro--and that's what tends to matter more with newer games that rely on AA and AF (and other memory-intensive tasks) to make the games look good at decent resolutions.

And not to knock the 7600gt--it's still a worthy card--but there's no way it should be getting equal marks in Aquamark as the x1950pro. I don't trust that results link even more now. In the end, it should come down to game performance, not artificial benchmarks, as to whether someone should buy one card over another--while I might be a bit biased being a x1950pro owner myself, I would go for the x1950pro. However, I would also say that $50 less is also not a bad reason to go with the 8600gt. Either will suit your tasks. If you want more VRAM should you choose to buy a larger monitor, then the x1950pro is the obvious choice. Otherwise, you'll probably see the same performance in gaming out of each card.

EDIT--just realized that you said you're not interested in overclocking--in that case, go with the x1950pro--it gives the best out-of-the-box performance by far. Good thing too because they (at least mine) don't OC well at all. Still a good card.
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The 8600's do well in synthetic benchmarking, but in actual gaming tests their peformance drops.

I chose the x1950pro 256mb over the 8600GT....and I'm very happy with my decision.

I score 4700 with everything at stock in 3dmark06, with Vista Ultimate.
    
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If you plan to stay DX9 for a while (1 year or so) then go for the x1950pro, since it will perform better at your high resolution. The extra RAM will be a plus, but wasted on the card; cards at this level of performance simply do not have the necessary horsepower to utilize all that RAM.
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