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Ya I agree that you should go with more than 2gb if using Vista if you're a power-user, and especially if you're a gamer. I've noticed like Murlocke, that 2gb for some games just isn't enough, and you'll start lagging/paging, or crash or something. I suppose I could lean Vista down a bit in services etc, but I like alot of it's features, and I'd rather just give it what it wants, more ram to play with .

I had another 2gb, so I put them in my sig rig running Vista Home Premium, and it made a big difference. I have 32bit Vista, so I only get 3008MB ram out of the 4gb, losing a little less than a gig. But trust me, that extra 1.2GB or whatever helps. It still will run dual channel and all that, you just can't address it all. I think I would actually get 3.25GHz with 32bit, but my bios itself limits it to 3008MB. I read in the manual though, that if you put 4 1gb sticks in, it may do that for some kind of resource allocation, I don't know. Maybe I only get more if I put 2gb sticks in?

And btw guys, get with the times j/k. I have seen many people with 64bit Vista who have zero problems whatsoever. Gaming or otherwise. The driver issues I see so many people warn about, are all but gone, and have been for awhile now. For the most part, the people who say 64bit sucks, are the people who haven't used it IMO lol.

I also think alot of the people who don't like Vista period (if they've even used it), is because they didn't tweak it a little to make it work right. It's extremely versatile, and you can disable alot of stuff and get it pretty dam close to XP resources, if you really want to, but I like how it is for the most part. Vista is great, gaming is fine, drivers are fine, everything works and that's all she wrote. Vista kills Windows XP, once you've used it you don't want XP anymore, for me anyway. I kind of wish I had gotten the 64bit one actually myself, then I could use all my ram (unless my bios won't let me eh?)
    
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I overclock my gpu in vista 64 with a program called Expertool. I think that I downloaded it from the guru 3d web site. It was made by a company called Gainward. The program works great in vista 64 and I have not had any problems with it.
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I also think alot of the people who don't like Vista period (if they've even used it), is because they didn't tweak it a little to make it work right. It's extremely versatile, and you can disable alot of stuff and get it pretty dam close to XP resources, if you really want to, but I like how it is for the most part. Vista is great, gaming is fine, drivers are fine, everything works and that's all she wrote. Vista kills Windows XP, once you've used it you don't want XP anymore, for me anyway. I kind of wish I had gotten the 64bit one actually myself, then I could use all my ram (unless my bios won't let me eh?)
Have you actually played any dx9 games on vista? No matter what version you're running you will run into a stack of issues, including performance problems. Basically half the people I know that play oblivion or stalker with vista say they at least get stuttering that wasn't there before they used vista.
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@roscoe 32bit os takes into account your video ram so it is 3.25-your vid ram leaving you with 3008MB
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Have you actually played any dx9 games on vista? No matter what version you're running you will run into a stack of issues, including performance problems. Basically half the people I know that play oblivion or stalker with vista say they at least get stuttering that wasn't there before they used vista.
Hmm interesting, I just played through and beat Stalker, and it played like a dream the whole time...all the time, pretty darn high settings too. I also played through Condemed Criminal Origins, same thing, great performance. Also Company of Heroes I haven't played much yet, but it seems to run fine as well.

Right now I'm playing FEAR again, cause I bought the expansion and I wanted to do the whole thing again. Again, very high or maxed settings on almost everything, and as high as my gpu will let me for AA and anisotropic. My cousin borrowed my Oblivion, don't know when I'll get that back, but I think that would be OK too. I've also seen plenty other people who have had no problems with many games. If you tweak Vista a little, you should get relatively close to XP on gaming performance. I've heard XP will win by a few fps though, but Vista gets better all the time too. I won't deny that XP has the edge in gaming right now, but tell me the experience difference between 95 and 100fps? There isn't one.

Maybe you're talking about awhile ago? Newer versions of drivers from Nvidia have really gotten alot better. I noticed improved performance myself with newer drivers. I wonder did these guys tailor Vista a little, turn off UAC, uneeded or undesired services, upgrade drivers, etc? There's alot of little things to free up resources, like for example just the Vista side bar uses like 25mb of ram up, not much but stuff like that adds up. Vista is tweakable, versatile, and quite simply a good OS, better than XP in almost every way IMO. I feel a better answer than disabling stuff you may actually like, to free up ram, IMHO is to just give it more ram . That's what it wants.

People having gaming problems on Vista are probably having driver issues, or configuration issues. Or, they need more than 2gb ram, cause Vista with most bells and whistles uses quite a chunk. I think people having Oblivion issues deffinitely need more than 2gb, cause I happen to know that Oblivion is a ram hog, these people you talk about are probably getting stutters because it's paging into the HDD, they simply don't have enough ram to keep the game and Vista happy at once.
    
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How are you overclocking your card in Ultimate x64, I get a kernal error.

I find 4GB a need for playing games on max graphics in Vista. I also got crashes so I went 4GB.
I did it via BIOS flash. Vista 64 protection requires digital signatures including ATITool.
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no you need at least 2gb, so put both in.
i think hes talking about the 3rd gig and saving the fourth,am i rite
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definitely get it for the future proofing. and vista.
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