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Hey all...

A newbi here at building a PC and overclocking..

I've made up my mind on these components:

CPU: E4300
Mobo: GA-965P-S3
Ram: 1 or 2 Gigabyte sticks of DDR2 667 kingston
I plan to use stock cooling.

Do you think with this system I will be able to overclock CPU to about 3 - 3.2 ghz or the stock cooling, ram or Mobo will limit me ?


will this be easy to achieve??

I am waiting your opinions and thanks in advance,,
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post #2 of 18
Stock cooling will limit you. For $50 or so you can pick up a nice after-market cooler and OC the heck out of that e4300!

It can't be guaranteed to it 3.0ghz though.. that depends a lot on your stepping. (Some e4300's require too much voltage to safely overclock that high -- it's a luck of the draw)
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Assuming that is Kingston Value Ram? You wont be able to overclock the memory at all. So the top memory speed will be 333.3 times 2. That will mean that your fastest FSB will be 333.3 times 9. That will get you to 2.997 ghz. So, if that is sufficient you will be fine.
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Varies, I have scene kingston value ram with d9gmh in it, but that is very rare so I doubt that you have it, I think that your stock cooling will limit you, your ram even being kingston value ram will still overclock some regardless what type of ram it is, even value elpydia, promos, .. whatever else will still overclock some, maybe not much but some.

I thing that your limiting factor will be your cooling for your cpu
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if u go for ddr2 667 for for a super talent set they ll hit 900mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820609219
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Thanks all for your opinion which are very useful.

Unfortunatley, I am on a budget so i'll settle for stock cooling. As I've read this will limit me in addition to my RAM. Therefore, maybe a 945P-S3 will be enough.

Now, I have 3 important questions :

for the E4300 Overclocking,
1- What is the limit for stock cooling?
2- What is the limit for DDR2 667 Kingston( I don't know if it's value ram or not, so consider it value ram) ?
3- What is the limit for GA-945P-S3 Mobo?

Finally, How far can i overclock this cpu using a system of the above mentioned components?
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Originally Posted by abdoo View Post
Thanks all for your opinion which are very useful.

Unfortunatley, I am on a budget so i'll settle for stock cooling. As I've read this will limit me in addition to my RAM. Therefore, maybe a 945P-S3 will be enough.

Now, I have 3 important questions :

for the E4300 Overclocking,
1- What is the limit for stock cooling?
2- What is the limit for DDR2 667 Kingston( I don't know if it's value ram or not, so consider it value ram) ?
3- What is the limit for GA-945P-S3 Mobo?

Finally, How far can i overclock this cpu using a system of the above mentioned components?
He already pretty much answered:
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Originally Posted by jph1589 View Post
Assuming that is Kingston Value Ram? You wont be able to overclock the memory at all. So the top memory speed will be 333.3 times 2. That will mean that your fastest FSB will be 333.3 times 9. That will get you to 2.997 ghz. So, if that is sufficient you will be fine.
I'd not take stock cooling over 3.0 ghz (stock cooling = 2.6 stock 6600, I think)
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Therefore, maybe a 945P-S3 will be enough.
If you change to the 945P, the answers to all the questions above change. The 945 cipset was not originally designed to run the C2D and it will not do anything as well as the 965P. So if you change motherboards, all bets are off.
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Originally Posted by abdoo View Post
Thanks all for your opinion which are very useful.

Unfortunatley, I am on a budget so i'll settle for stock cooling. As I've read this will limit me in addition to my RAM. Therefore, maybe a 945P-S3 will be enough.

Now, I have 3 important questions :

for the E4300 Overclocking,
1- What is the limit for stock cooling?
2- What is the limit for DDR2 667 Kingston( I don't know if it's value ram or not, so consider it value ram) ?
3- What is the limit for GA-945P-S3 Mobo?

Finally, How far can i overclock this cpu using a system of the above mentioned components?
To answer your questions

1. Most 4300's on stock cooling can hit around 3Ghz still... However that has everything to do with the motherboard..

2. You maybe able to get a small oc out of the kingston, but that has everything to do with the motherboard.

3. 945P chipset is very limited.. I wouldn't use that motherboard at all.. It would be better to take a hit and do cheaper cooling and ram than to buy that motherboard... Trust me on this...

IDK who you use to buy from, but for $300 in the US i can get

Great oc'ing RAM...upto 1000mhz oc from 667mhz...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146560

Best mobo for a budget system... Great oc'er..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128042

Of course the 4300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115013

$275 in the US, before shipping... I'd go with those parts if budget allows and wait on the 2nd gig of ram and the aftermarket cooling..

I have seen many systems that have stock cooling on the 4300 and great oc results (3-3.2Ghz) But that was this winter... IDK if those clocks will have to change or not...

!!!!!Whatever way you choose, before you install those parts check your 4300 to make sure the IHS is completely flat.. That actually has the most to do with oc'ing that cpu!!!!

Let us know what you do
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2x1 GB ram in dual channel will give u more oc-ability, and better gaming performance than just a gig ddr2 800

Maybe try this for the ram. its only $10 more

its got low cas timings for value ram, so u can push it further
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