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post #21 of 30
I would be seriously amazed if this was true. From the pictures and even just the word "socket."
one type of socket shouldn't be able to fit into another, it just isn't possible.
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WELL i've HEARD ahead of time a AM3 cpu will work in a AM2 socket (won't have all the advanced features)
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It's... not... possible...
yes i get what you're saying, i too played the game where you put the coloured shapes in the holes.

however i was looking for an answer that doesn't involve telling me i dreamed it, or it's impossible. i find it as odd as you guys do.
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yes i get what you're saying, i too played the game where you put the coloured shapes in the holes.

however i was looking for an answer that doesn't involve telling me i dreamed it, or it's impossible. i find it as odd as you guys do.
maybe it was liquor/whiskey (valid excuse ) EVIL/GREAT substances
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maybe it was liquor/whiskey (valid excuse ) EVIL/GREAT substances
more like a little Athlon 64.20...

sooo... anyone got a spare 3500+ 754 and a 939 board?
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more like a little Athlon 64.20...

sooo... anyone got a spare 3500+ 754 and a 939 board?
want to lay down a grand you can't do it in presence of someone from ocn?
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want to lay down a grand you can't do it in presence of someone from ocn?
to be honest when i go check the socket out i'm expecting to see the 939 pin layout with "socket 754" written on it. if not, then **** it i'll try it again, if it worked once it can't hurt. i just imagine my mate wont want to part with it.

was just hoping someone with the requisite equipment laying around (including balls of steel or a really large wallet) would attempt it.
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post #28 of 30
Here's a major factor to consider. Was there ever a Socket 754 Athlon 64 3500+? I think I can safely say that there never was one. I couldn't see where a hypothetical 3500+ would fit in the Socket 754 A64 portfolio

A64 3000+, 2.0GHz 512kb L2/ 1.8GHz 1mb L2
A64 3200+, 2.2GHz 512kb L2
A64 3400+, 2.4GHz 512kb L2 / 2.2GHz 1mb L2
A64 3700+, 2.4GHz 1mb L2

The only place where a hypothetical 3500+ could be placed is 2.5GHz 512kb L2 or 2.3GHz 1mb L2, of which we all know AMD never did half multi's on Athlon 64's until Brisbane 65nm

Now then, you say you've also dropped an A64 4000+ in the socket too. That only came in 939 format too (excluding the 2.6GHz Newark Core) and I guess you know that CPU is 939 since it's sat in your ASrock Dual SATA II.

Another thing to consider is that, where Socket 754 CPU's have no pins, Socket 939 pins do. Due to the fashion of the 754 socket, you couldn't drop a 939 chip in without bending some of those pins nearer the middle.

Say if we were to ignore the fact that physically it may not fit:

Head over to Page 44 Here. Socket 754 Pin Designations
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/31410.pdf

Page 32 for Socket 939
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/31411.pdf

Without looking carefully at those pin designations, it still seems pretty clear that you'd have a hard time getting a Socket 939 chip to work in a 754 motherboard, or vice versa.

I can only deduce that the maker of the socket printed the name wrong or you misread!

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WELL i've HEARD ahead of time a AM3 cpu will work in a AM2 socket (won't have all the advanced features)
but they will be the same socket pin layout - AMD made the sockets have different pins so n00bs wouldn't put the wrong chip in and ***** because "this AMD **** don't neva werk" like people do with C2D's in non-C2D 775 boards
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Chances are, that when 754 boards and chips ceased production, HP thoguht "Bugger, what r we going to sell to all these people that want this computer?" So then took a 939 board and 3500+ skt939 and sold that instead as a replacement to the computer they couldn't source parts for anymore.
    
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