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I just picked up my DFI Infinity ULTRA II-M2 yesterday but my order of my thermalright ultra 12 extreme had not arrived. Anyways i have been playing around with both my 3600 brisbane and my 3800 with the stock cooler and only managing to post 2.6 - 2.7.

I am wondering if a much better cooling affects just the posting? Cause i was thinking it should post because it hasn't had time to heat up yet if you know what i mean. For example if a chip did 3.1ghz stable underwater cooling, could it still POST at 3.1 with stock or does it heatup that quickly? I hope you guys understand my question lmao.
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I'm not entirely sure. My fx-55 (sandy) gets up to 3GHz, and after that it doesn't post even if the heat is "manageable"
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I just picked up my DFI Infinity ULTRA II-M2 yesterday but my order of my thermalright ultra 12 extreme had not arrived. Anyways i have been playing around with both my 3600 brisbane and my 3800 with the stock cooler and only managing to post 2.6 - 2.7.

I am wondering if a much better cooling affects just the posting? Cause i was thinking it should post because it hasn't had time to heat up yet if you know what i mean. For example if a chip did 3.1ghz stable underwater cooling, could it still POST at 3.1 with stock or does it heatup that quickly? I hope you guys understand my question lmao.
Well, CPU's do heat up very quickly--go into your BIOS and check the CPU temp when starting up--my CPU is already at idle temps when I'm in the BIOS. Pretty much once there's juice going to the core(s), they've reached thermal equilibrium with the IHS within a few seconds, probably within a few seconds of pressing the power button. Now, they will heat up more when you start doing things after the POST, but I couldn't envision a situation where you have the same computer under water cooling vs. air cooling, and it posts with one and not the other--but typically temps are not what usually prevents a computer from POSTing. It's usually something else. (But not always).
    
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Hmm maybe im expecting too much.. i was hoping to get 2.7 to 3ghz out of them =s these clocks won't even post. so your saying if they don't post now theres no chance these clocks will happen with my thermalright?
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Get an old P4, take off the heatsink, put your finger on it and then turn it on. You'll get a scar with in the second and that was with the IHS on .
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Hmm maybe im expecting too much.. i was hoping to get 2.7 to 3ghz out of them =s these clocks won't even post. so your saying if they don't post now theres no chance these clocks will happen with my thermalright?
Well, I guess what I'm saying is that CPU temperatures are seldom what limits an overclock--and generally the OC'er determines that temps are unsafe after OC'ing to a certain point, booting into the OS, and monitoring temperatures. It's even more seldom that a computer fails POST due to CPU temps--usually it's something like RAM instabilities, or the mobo just doesn't work at the FSB, or the CPU just won't go higher despite relatively cool temps. Sometimes you just hit the end of the road and temps aren't an issue. Sucks when that happens.
    
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Get an old P4, take off the heatsink, put your finger on it and then turn it on. You'll get a scar with in the second and that was with the IHS on .
ROFL. That's one way to figure it out. Ever catch that video of intel vs. amd systems that were booted without a HSF? AMD's eploded while the intels downclocked and protected themselves. That was cool. can't remember where it was. someone here at OCN posted it. But anyway...
    
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Get an old P4, take off the heatsink, put your finger on it and then turn it on. You'll get a scar with in the second and that was with the IHS on .
when me and my best friend were building my old P4 rig, we got everything setup except for the HSF, and wanted to test to make sure it would POST, which it ended up shutting off after 10 seconds. thinkin something was wrong (other than no HSF lol), he went to grab the chip and ended up putting ice on his fingers the rest of the night
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The exploding amd one was a hoax. They shot it from underneath the table with a cap gun.

I've burned out some old cpus; just smoked a lot .
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The exploding amd one was a hoax. They shot it from underneath the table with a cap gun.

I've burned out some old cpus; just smoked a lot .
Yeah, I didn't mean that it literally exploded--I remember seeing that vid too--that was stupid. But the CPU (if I remember correctly) got horribly hot, expanded, and did pop up out of the socket. Maybe I don't remember right. Anyway, the moral of the story was (first) use a HSF. (second) amd=toast, intel=salvageable.
    
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