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Originally Posted by ElMikeTheMike View Post
It really all depends on the type of program you want to run. The only 64 bit specific software I had to get (aside from drivers of course) was Daemon Tools. All the normal programs I use work fine in 64 Bit Vista. Normal stuff like AIM, Limewire, etc. It all works.
Yup, only some apps that directly affect hardware require a 64-bit version.
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Hold on there now, me and many others are already seeing problems with only having 2gb on Vista for gaming. For Vista I think people need to start throwing out the "2gb is plenty" mentality, cause it's not enough, for gaming mostly I mean, for now anyway. And as time passes, 2gb will quickly IMO become more and more insufficient. I added more ram, can't see it all cause I have 32bit Vista, but now I have a little over 3gb, and trust me it helps. I wish I had gotten 64bit Vista actually, may move this OS to my other rig to replace XP on it, then I'll get 64bit Vista for my main here.
But that's the thing, if it's true I shouldnt have to take your word.

Recently there have being a few excellent benchmarks on the performance of 4GB and 2GB in 64 bit OS systems, talking games that are very resource intensive like oblivion and there is barely any improvement, talking like maybe 2-3 fps if that.

There is no indication that this will change with new and upcoming games, and even that's getting ahead of ourselves since crysis isn't due out till near the end of the year.

Even if we found there to be some fair improvements, I feel it is much safer to wait to see that when it actually happens.

DDR3 might actually be worth buying by that time anyway, in which case it would make sense to buy 4GB of that instead.
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post #23 of 34
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But that's the thing, if it's true I shouldnt have to take your word.

Recently there have being a few excellent benchmarks on the performance of 4GB and 2GB in 64 bit OS systems, talking games that are very resource intensive like oblivion and there is barely any improvement, talking like maybe 2-3 fps if that.

There is no indication that this will change with new and upcoming games, and even that's getting ahead of ourselves since crysis isn't due out till near the end of the year.

Even if we found there to be some fair improvements, I feel it is much safer to wait to see that when it actually happens.

DDR3 might actually be worth buying by that time anyway, in which case it would make sense to buy 4GB of that instead.

I'm not talking about fps, I'm talking about you're playing for awhile then bam, the game starts paging into your HDD and performance goes to hell. Starts acting like 5fps or something. Like I said, you can disable all kinds of stuff in Vista and make it less resource hungry, but I like all the bells and whistles (mostly). That's fine, you don't have to take my word for it, but I've seen plenty others who've benefitted from more than 2gb when using Vista. Personally I'm completely convinced more than 2gb is beneficial in Vista, even now, and more each day.
    
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So games supported in 32 bit vista are also supported in 64 bit version?

Everything that worked in 32bit would work in 64 bit?

How come I don't see more people using 64 bit XP / vista then?
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One handy feature of Vista x64 is PatchGuard. This is a security implementation that is excluseive to 64-bit versions of Vista. Basically, if an attempt is made to install a driver that is not signed by an authorized Certificate (such as one Symantec would have), the driver will not install. This is a big win for reliability, performance and security, in that it limits the possibilities for unknown, untested and possibly malicious software to insert itself into core code paths in the kernel.
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64 bit... lack of driver support (my webcam) and older apps wont run (NFS 3)
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64 bit... lack of driver support (my webcam) and older apps wont run (NFS 3)
Here's the Need For Speed Carbon 1.4 Patch for a start.....

You're problem with Need For Speed wasn't x64 specific, both versions of Vista suffered from it.
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Theres a couple DX10 games, Call of Juarez and Company of Heros
The drivers still suck though.
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no, when i say NFS3 i mean NFS 3 Hot Pursuit
http://www.gamespot.com/ps/driving/n...g=images;img;2
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post #30 of 34
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no, when i say NFS3 i mean NFS 3 Hot Pursuit
Sorry, you're well and truely up the creek in that case.
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