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Do you think the flames on the 2900XT and the flamers bashing it are coincidental? hmmm.....
It was suppose to be a joke...
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It was suppose to be a joke...
I know, I wasn't bashing you at all - I just thought I'd throw a joke out there too.
    
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Wow Ultra really sucks, I thought they integrated the highly-overclockable Hynix chips on a black PCB but they're still using Samsung! This is paying more for just better looking but technically lower-quality first generation GTX.

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Just so you all know, Ihatethedukes posted links with screenies:

Posted by ViperJohn



If this were part of the OCN Top 30 Benching PCs the scores would be:
2900XT 1GB: 152707
8800 Ultra: 159677

This puts the 8800 Ultra in 9th place under NCSA (160303, 4.41Ghz X6800, 8800GTX 660/2040) and above TheAlienwareGamer (159650, 3.6Ghz E6600, SLi 8800GTS 320MB 620/1820). The 2900XT 1GB falls in 10th below TheAlienwareGamer (159650, 3.6Ghz E6600, SLi 8800GTS 320MB 620/1820) and above 3$steak (142004, 3.2Ghz E6400, SLi 8800GTS 320MB 602/1804).

To quote ViperJohn himslef, the 8800 Ultra is better, but ~$300 better?

This is the most we have right now, and I will take it as legit.

(Look at the insane shader clocks on the 8800 Ultra!)
We all know that pre-overclocked GTX = Ultra so don't bother pulling the price argument into this. Let's take some real world pricing, using Newegg as reference.

Cheapest 8800GTS 640MB, $359.99
Cheapest HD 2900XT, $409.99
Cheapest 8800GTX, $549.99

Can you confirm that the 1GB model will cost $409.99? It'd be at least $50 more, GDDR4 isn't cheap, and even if it is as cheap as GDDR3, it still has twice the amount so the price will go accordingly. I can't help it if you have to take it as legit just because it favors the 2900 a bit. Comparing with the people in the top 30 would not work, every setup varies, hence why there is a 8800GTS rig, a SLI 7900GT rig, and multiple 8800GTX rigs beating a 8800Ultra rig.
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post #44 of 52
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It means that it will run super duper uber hot.

*puts on flame suit too*
forget you guys, me and my ATi boys are stickin to the best performance for less money with saphire, you guys suck your nvidias, we will suck our ATi's everybody is happy. We all know that the 8800GTX is the ****, and that ati may never be able to compete with nvidia, because nvidia is like sparta, and ati is like the persians, but, we are cool, the ATi empire wil strike back with their clone troopers, and your jedi asses will be sory
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We all know that pre-overclocked GTX = Ultra so don't bother pulling the price argument into this.
The Ultra are only identical to the GTX architecturally, but have seen a manufacturing process modification that lowers TDP. You can't quite call them the same because the Ultra should be more overclockable due to less heat generation. We'll see, though.
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The Ultra are only identical to the GTX architecturally, but have seen a manufacturing process modification that lowers TDP. You can't quite call them the same because the Ultra should be more overclockable due to less heat generation. We'll see, though.
I was saying the performance of pre-overclocked GTX is equal or better than Ultra. Pre-overclocked Ultra clocks are also achievable with most GTX's, it simply neglects the point of comparing the 2900XT with the Ultra instead of a pre-overclocked GTX. It's been said that the Ultra runs on a higher voltage, and that's all there is to it.
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post #47 of 52
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I was saying the performance of pre-overclocked GTX is equal or better than Ultra. Pre-overclocked Ultra clocks are also achievable with most GTX's, it simply neglects the point of comparing the 2900XT with the Ultra instead of a pre-overclocked GTX. It's been said that the Ultra runs on a higher voltage, and that's all there is to it.
ultra, has:

more voltz +
higher shader clock +
higher core clock +
higher mem clock +

= modded and OC'd GTX for 300 bux more, ummm noty.
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blah blah blah who cares? Let's see in game benches. This looks promising, but it really doesn't mean anything until we see a REAL DX10 game benched. By this I mean Crysis, not some lame RTS with a DX10 patch (that I hear has an NVidia logo when you start the game...)
I'm not buying a DX10 card until the second gen cards arrive.
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When are these supposed to come out?
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blah blah blah who cares? Let's see in game benches. This looks promising, but it really doesn't mean anything until we see a REAL DX10 game benched. By this I mean Crysis, not some lame RTS with a DX10 patch (that I hear has an NVidia logo when you start the game...)
I'm not buying a DX10 card until the second gen cards arrive.
I am with Binormalkilla on this one...this old 1950pro still plays most every thing at max or close to it save for the wierd games that nothing plays goos like NWN2 and such. A DirectX 10 game is going to come out and just watch...all these 8800's and 2900's will bearly even play them.

I know I saw some post about a supposedly DX10 demo a few weeks ago and the 8800GTX was getting an average of 50fps...that is just too low for me. Cause if that's the average that would mean it would be dropping into the 20's and 30's at points and that was a demo. You put in a real game with eratic movement and more action then what the demo had and it would be even worse. I was kind of hoping the whole thing was fake as would hope a $500+ card would do better then that.
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