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My second build of a PC as listed in my info,
but when i water tested my blocks in my
case (WITHOUT MB GPU OR MEM/WHATEVER INSTALLED)
practically everything except the radiators
sprung leaks in the first 5 minutes.

I'm using the correct barbs on everything,
double and tripple checked, and thightened everything
down, does anyone recommend using tape
for threading (you know, the cheap stuff from
home depot)?

[edit]
I'm using steel worm clamps from home depot

64 oz! for only that much footing?
im running mostly 1/2" id 5/8 od tubing
from cpu to NB im running 3/8 ID and NB to SB 3/8
SB to Rad 1/2 and 1/2 for the rest of the system
why 1/2 a gallon? coolant is expensive

im not using the clamps that come with the swiftech
the bends are not hard at all, onlyon the CPU to NB.

it goes:

Pump (swiftech 655) => CPU => NB => SB => routed back of mozarttx to rad =>res => rad=> pump
[/edit]

Also, on average how much coolant does a system need?
(about 6-7 feet tubing with dual 240 RADS and 5 1/4 bay
resivoir?)
Is it a stupid idea to use both a fillport and a resivoir,
because I was thinking of just using a resivoir.

Finally, what fans would you recommend with this setup,
I need 4
for the dual rads and this fancy fan controller i just got:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/59...Fan_Ready.html

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by phospholipid View Post
My second build of a PC listed in my info,
but when i water tested my blocks in my
case (WITHOUT MB GPU OR MEM/WHATEVER INSTALLED)
practically everything except the radiators
sprung leaks in the first 5 minutes.

Now I'm using the correct barbs on everything,
double and tripple checked, and thightened everything
down, does anyone recommend using tape
for threading (you know, the cheap stuff from
home depot)?

Also, on average how much coolant does a system need?
(about 6-7 feet tubing with dual 240 RADS and 5 1/4 bay
resivoir?)
Is it a stupid idea to use both a fillport and a resivoir,
because I was thinking of just using a resivoir.

Finally, what fans would you recommend with this setup,
I need 4 for the dual rads and this fancy fan controller i just got:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/59...Fan_Ready.html

Thanks!
Do not use plumbers tape.

Where did leaks form? Did you use clamps?

You will need a little over 1/2 gallon for that loop.
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Well it could be from the threads of the barbs that connect to the res,block etc. So you will need to use some plumbers sealent or teflon tape to seal it if the O rings arent doing their job.

As for the coolant, you have got to fill it up, with a res, the res has to be at least 3/4 full, and with a T line i'd say 3/4 or 1/2 of the T line should with coolant.
I have just a res now, but im putting in a T line and a res. why?
It will be easyer to empty,fill and flush my system that way.
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Do not use plumbers tape.

Where did leaks form? Did you use clamps?

You will need a little over 1/2 gallon for that loop.
you cant use that white teflon tape?
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you cant use that white teflon tape?
You shouldn't unless you have too. The O-ring should do their job. If not, something is wrong with your threading. The issue with teflon tape is that it can come loose and get into your loop. You don't want it clogging anything or getting caught on the impeller.
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you cant use that white teflon tape?
Teflon tape, plumbers tape... same thing different name.

Aside from that, what are you using to tighten everything down? Metal worm driven clamps or zip ties? Believe it or not I've had more success using 2-3 zip ties per barb. Make sure you use the longer ones, like 8-9" long and pull them tight. Also make sure your setup is filled up so you don't have bubbles going through the loop.
    
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I used wormgear clamps when I modded my Thermaltake wc loop. These have been enough to hold my shoddy work together.
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post #8 of 14
Okay a few quick questions...

1. What kind of tubing you using? Whats the ID and OD on it.

2. Are you using the barbs that were supplied with the apogee and mcr rad?

3. Where are the leaks coming from the O-rings or the barbs?

4. Just like the others asked what you using,,, zip ties, worm drivers, plastic clips, or nothing?

5. Also is your turns reall tight and putting extreme tension on the barbs....


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post #9 of 14
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I'm using steel worm clamps from home depot

64 oz! for only that much footing?
im running mostly 1/2" id 5/8 od tubing
from cpu to NB im running 3/8 ID and NB to SB 3/8
SB to Rad 1/2 and 1/2 for the rest of the system
why 1/2 a gallon? coolant is expensive

im not using the clamps that come with the swiftech
the bends are not hard at all, onlyon the CPU to NB.

it goes:

Pump (swiftech 655) => CPU => NB => SB => routed back of mozarttx to rad =>res => rad=> pump
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You might of tightened down the barbs to much and the O-Rings came off..I hate O-Rings...If thats what happened redo it with some Teflon tape and don't tighten it down so hard...I'll leave you a component cleaning PDF it tells you how you can use Permatex high-temp RTV sealant so you can do away with the O-Rings....I hate O-Rings....
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