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much difference between 1mb and 2mb cache?

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im ordering my new mobo and cpu today(still tearing my eyes out decidding intel or amd!!)

anyhow,i was looking at a couple of online stores and they all seem to have the amd 3600 but its only 1mb cache,i understand the 3600 to have is the 2mb cache version(brisbane??) is this right?

is there a lot of performance difference between the 2?

cheers
dave
post #2 of 32
I think the big difference is that the Brisbane core is 65nm architecture, where as the Windsor is 90nm. I think I heard that the Brisbanes run cooler, and therefore should be more overclockable.

I do believe, because of this AMD road map, that both versions have previously (at some time) had a 2x512KB L2 cache version. I think the majority of them now have a 2x1MB version (which is the one I would keep an eye out for). I could be wrong about this, but I doubt the road map would be inaccurate. Both seem pretty good, but I think the Brisbane beats it.

If we are talking AM2 here, I personally would get a lower stock clocked Brisbane with the 2x1MB cache, and OC that sucker. A bigger cache is always nice, but it also produces more heat. It shouldn't be a problem to keep the temps down in it, though. A decent HSF & a drop of AS5 will keep most temps down.
    
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ok thanks,yes i looked at the roadmap,thats what confused me(doesnt take much!)

im struggling to find a brisbane in the uk tho

my pc technical side is really bottlenecking me

dave
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here you are

3600+ Brisbane, £42.50
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thanks nick,what i meant to say was i couldnt find any with the 2mb cache
or should i get that one?

i notice that they do have some good mobo/ram/cpu bundles on there too.
choose one for me and i shall buy

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=313413

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=314945

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=312030



i also have to buy a new craphics card as i have an x850xt agp card at the moment..what card do you reccomend to compliment the processor i will be getting?

dave
post #6 of 32
If you are up to the task of overclocking then either the 3600+ kit you listed or the E4300 kit would be great for a budget system. Both chips will pull 2.8ghz or so, perhaps even more.

What budget did you have in mind for a graphics card?
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the only am2 cpus with 2MB cache are the FX series and the optys AMD did this to reducing prices as cache takes up alot of space on the die
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well i was looking atno more than £250 in total for the lot..so im guessing around £100 for the card?

dave
post #9 of 32
Ok so assuming you bought one of the above kits you would have £120-£130....

I would probably go for THIS an 8600GT. DX10 (If you have or get Vista) and a solid midrange card, it doesnt come close to an 8800GTX, but nor does the budget. This will run any game from the last few years at fairly high settings and should hang on to decent settings on newer games for a few years
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ok thanks

well im running xp 32bit...i dont have any aspirations to goto vista as im happy with xp..unless you think i should?

been trawling ebay for cards..seen some x1950 pro cards for £100..any good?

any of these worth a shot?
http://search.ebay.co.uk/x1950_Compu...inZtQQsbrsrtZl
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