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post #31 of 88
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Originally Posted by Ihatethedukes View Post
Why does anyone care about having more than two PCI cards again?

Wireless + sound card = 2.... why 3? I don't get it. Someone explain.
Video tuner....better Raid card...
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post #32 of 88
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Voltage and current are not digital and they may, in fact, fail in term of stability if the ripples and voltage drops exceed a threshold because of bad connections.

Note this, if there are contacts, it bears risk of ill-contact like dirt or stuff like that happen on the surface.

However, if there is no contact, everything is throughout, there is no risk of having ill-contact -> Maximum stability.
Again... does not really matter. The memory modules would fail waaaaaaaaaaay before interconnect issues would cause issue. How many people here wipe their DIMM slot and PCB... and then suddenly notice even a 1MHz gain? Memory overclocking limits are caused by memory module failure.

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Video tuner....better Raid card...
All devices on the PCI bus share 133MB/s. Smart RAID0 card PCI bus is a waste.
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post #33 of 88
i think it'll increase performance, but not enough to warrant losing the upgradeability of your system. in 2 years, 2 GB won't be nearly enough.
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Wow I wish I worked and had tons of cash to just spend on anything I wanted. Gotta finish college first though.
    
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post #35 of 88
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i think it'll increase performance, but not enough to warrant losing the upgradeability of your system. in 2 years, 2 GB won't be nearly enough.
Two Raptors or 7200.10 would already be bottleneck by 120-130MB/s bus. Smart RAID cards cost $200-1000. Pointless unless you like wasting money....
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The reason DDR2 has more pins is for extra stablity? Wrong. Here's why...
1) DDR3 still has the same number of pins. Why didn't they increase pins since it is for stability?
2) Why didn't they design it with 300 pins or 400 pins? PCB manufactoring can easily do it.

The reason that DDR2 has more pins is becase the data bus required it. It has nothing to do with stability.

Every little connection increases resistence. Go research the resistence of 2.5ft of wire a bit further. It barely affects anything especially at low currents and voltages. Also, memory is digital. As long as the signal is above a certain threshold, it is either 0 or 1. The cause of memory overclocking failure is electromigration within the modules. This has nothing to do with the motherboard/memory PCB interface connection.
The fact DDR3 has the same amount of pins as DDR2 is nothing to do with whether extra pins add to stability. Your reasoning is not sufficient for your conclusion. Do I win teh intenetz?
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post #37 of 88
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It's fancy marketing... so pointless. Memory does not overclock better by "improved the connection". The memory themselvese are failing. Also, it have been shown that memory does not need extreme cooling to overclock better. If you get this... I bet you have the full Fata1ity set
So true.....


I love ASUS, but lately they've gone a bit far.

Instead of all these heatpipes connecting everything, just give me individual heatsinks (w/ heatpipes and FANS!)
    
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post #38 of 88
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Go read my response with logic and electrical engineering support.
You're missing the point by a mile but I'll just agree to finish it here. It's not worth it to me. This board looks pretty sweet. I don't think I'd buy it personally though... Unless I had money to throw around.
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I *hate* the heatpipe design that every gimmicky company has come to love.

That is why I will be getting the Intel DX38BT... It uses proper engineering as its selling point, not gimmicks.

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sladesurfer, great find. rep+
Why does anyone care about having more than two PCI cards again?

Wireless + sound card = 2.... why 3? I don't get it. Someone explain.
I use a tv runer sometimes.

The only beef I have against boards like this is the non inverted heatpipes. If you own a Lian Li you have to sell the copper on the board to have enough money to afford after market cooling. Or they could sell 2 versions.(if its possible) Inverted or non.
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