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Is it worth it to replace the memory I currently have in my sig rig for G.Skill HZs or Crucial Ballistix? My Corsairs can OC to about 840 with 5-5-5-12 timings, which is sub-par... If I replace my ram, I could probably go a bit further with my overclock. My question is, would upgrading my memory to D9s be worth $20 (I can sell the corsair sticks on ebay for about $90) or will the money be better spent on a RAID0 array, a better CPU cooler, or a better CPU. Keep in mind my motherboard maxes out at 260FSB. One more quick question...hehe. How do the Ballistix compare to the HZs?
http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/
This site says that the HZs have a 6-layer PCB, which would equate to more stable overclocks? Team Extreme RAM uses a 6/8-layer PCB so I would assume so. The site doesn't mention anything about the Ballistix, so I assume the HZs are a better deal?
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Is it worth it to replace the memory I currently have in my sig rig for G.Skill HZs or Crucial Ballistix? My Corsairs can OC to about 840 with 5-5-5-12 timings, which is sub-par... If I replace my ram, I could probably go a bit further with my overclock. My question is, would upgrading my memory to D9s be worth $20 (I can sell the corsair sticks on ebay for about $90) or will the money be better spent on a RAID0 array, a better CPU cooler, or a better CPU. Keep in mind my motherboard maxes out at 260FSB. One more quick question...hehe. How do the Ballistix compare to the HZs?
http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/
This site says that the HZs have a 6-layer PCB, which would equate to more stable overclocks? Team Extreme RAM uses a 6/8-layer PCB so I would assume so. The site doesn't mention anything about the Ballistix, so I assume the HZs are a better deal?
Well, I don't have any DDR2 recommendations (as I don't use DDR2). But are you sure that your RAM is what's holding your OC back? Have you found your max CPU speed by lowering your RAM to make sure you can actually get higher? Sorry if they're noobish-oriented questions, but before you invest money in an item you already own, just be sure you'll get the performance you expect.

I do know that many people around here rave about the HZ's, and they're supposed to do over 1000MHz if that helps. But like I said, I have no personal experience with them. Well, anyway, good luck!
    
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Well, I've tried loosening the timings to pretty much as low as they go. I can't seem to keep an overclock at/or beyond 2.6ghz. Usually, the overclock is unstable at 2.6 (around 230-240 FSB with 1.4-1.475v, haven't tried 1.5). When I restart my computer, my mobo stalls at the device check/boot page (not exactly sure what it's called). Only the BIOS company info and processor name is shown and then my mobo just pauses there. The processor name "AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+" is gray instead of the usual white. However, a CMOS reset fixes everything. I think it'll just be a waste of money to get a new motherboard so thats out of the question. Does anyone know what this indicates?
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Corsair is junk, its what I have in ddr, I see the gskills opening up a new world, lol.
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corsair is far from junk

GSKILL is great
Corsair is great

Corsairs memory has better consistency when it comes to performance.

KEEP YOUR MEMORY, its good
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Originally Posted by swiftshinobi View Post
Well, I've tried loosening the timings to pretty much as low as they go. I can't seem to keep an overclock at/or beyond 2.6ghz. Usually, the overclock is unstable at 2.6 (around 230-240 FSB with 1.4-1.475v, haven't tried 1.5). When I restart my computer, my mobo stalls at the device check/boot page (not exactly sure what it's called). Only the BIOS company info and processor name is shown and then my mobo just pauses there. The processor name "AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+" is gray instead of the usual white. However, a CMOS reset fixes everything. I think it'll just be a waste of money to get a new motherboard so thats out of the question. Does anyone know what this indicates?
Hmm. Have you done this: put your CPU multi at it's lowest, RAM at it's lowest, and HTT at it's lowest, and ratcheted through all of the FSB's to see if you have any FSB holes where the board is just not stable regardless of CPU or RAM? Perhaps that's the case? Even if it's not, it's a good idea to find your mobo's max FSB--since the RAM will be taken out of the equation by setting it to it's slowest MHz (you can also set the timings to very loose). That is probably the only test that will tell you if you have some FSB left to OC with, or if your board just won't go higher (it happens). Just a thought.

EDIT--is your mobo's max FSB 260, or does it just not boot at higher than 260?
    
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post #7 of 10
Not worth it really
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Hmm. Have you done this: put your CPU multi at it's lowest, RAM at it's lowest, and HTT at it's lowest, and ratcheted through all of the FSB's to see if you have any FSB holes where the board is just not stable regardless of CPU or RAM? Perhaps that's the case? Even if it's not, it's a good idea to find your mobo's max FSB--since the RAM will be taken out of the equation by setting it to it's slowest MHz (you can also set the timings to very loose). That is probably the only test that will tell you if you have some FSB left to OC with, or if your board just won't go higher (it happens). Just a thought.
Yeah, I did do that. I got up to 266 Mhz. I didn't check for holes though. Thanks for the reminder. I'll test it again when I get the time. Also, I've tried running the ram at DDR2 800 and 667 speeds. I'll try it at 533 and 400 too I suppose. It's worth a shot.
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Originally Posted by swiftshinobi View Post
Yeah, I did do that. I got up to 266 Mhz. I didn't check for holes though. Thanks for the reminder. I'll test it again when I get the time. Also, I've tried running the ram at DDR2 800 and 667 speeds. I'll try it at 533 and 400 too I suppose. It's worth a shot.
Ah. I see. Well, in that case, it depends on how much $100 means to your rig. If you're only going to be able to squeeze about a couple hundred MHz out of it, I would say you'd see much more of a performance boost out of a RAID0 array--I just did that by the way, and I'm glad I did that over buying a new mobo--but then I did that later anyway...lol.

But if you're doing things like heavy media encoding, then a higher clockrate will always win, so it's your call. It all depends on what you're going to be doing, and if you'll really get any benefit out of 2.8-3.0GHz rather than 2.6GHz other than bragging rights. But if you do get the RAM, all the luck with the OC!
    
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corsair is far from junk

GSKILL is great
Corsair is great

Corsairs memory has better consistency when it comes to performance.

KEEP YOUR MEMORY, its good

Well you may be right, but after 4 rmas I say differently. And thats running at stock speeds and timings if not under.
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