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Not entirely true

http://ati.amd.com/technology/crossfire/

X1950PRO and X1650XT use internal bridge. X13xx, other X16xx, X1800 GTO and X1900GT do 'Softfire', using the motherboard bus for communication. All others, including the X1950XT(X) need the outside cable.

Personally, I'd probably have gotten a single 8800GTS 640MB.

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Originally Posted by ElMikeTheMike View Post


In very few benchmarks that I've seen, the GTS beats a x1900 Crossfire setup. Othwise, the x1900s are typically on top. Unfortunately Toms Hardware doesn't have x1900 CF as an option anymore. They used to though.
3DMark06:
8800GTS - 12,036
Crossfire X1900 - 11,830
    
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here's a question, is it more cost effective to run two ati cards in cross fire or to just run 1 good ati card
One good card. Fewer headaches, cheaper, and usually overclocks better.

3dmark06 is a decent test, but only if both systems are running the same hardware with just different graphics cards. The difference in scores in those tests, Chozart, I think comes from the difference in FSB.

Still, one 8800GTS is a better buy than two X1900's.

They decided to make the chart 50 images, so I can't post it here.

Have the whole page instead:
http://promotions.newegg.com/ATI/CrossFire/index.html
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The CPU ran about 40MHz faster yes... not that big a deal. Taking that into consideration, I'd call it a tie.
    
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and as you see, you'll need the external cable for the X1950XT(X).

See also the link I posted earlier, directly frrom the AMD/ATI website (and that's the one I'd follow)
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GibbyGano View Post
Uhh, how aren't they cheaper...2 X1950 Pro's for 440, while a GTX is still about $550?

X1950Pro 512 MB for 179.99

Compared to 8800GTX 579.99

That actually makes the crossfire X1950Pro setup 359.98

You are saving 220 bucks. If you don't gave EXTREMELY heavily and you aren't real anxious for DX10 than it's actally quite a smart move.
Bingo. This was my thought exactly plus I just get bored having the same stuff all the time. Also I wanted to minimize my GPU costs right now to move to quad. I'm not looking to get vista anytime soon and I just wish I hadn't bought the GTS, stepped up to the GTX, and just bought the 1950Pro first.

The reason I want a quad is for folding and I do a lot of "video encoding". Mostly I wasn't using the 8800 series for anything other than benchmarks and I don't see the point in that any more for the cost.

Edit: Also, I am thinking about when I decide to go vista and use DX10 I might give ATI's DX10 cards a shot. If I have everything else with my pc squared away I can afford to XFire a couple of these guys. I just wanted to try XFire out and see what ATI is all about.

I like this forum because it's about people trying out different things and seeing what the community thinks. I was not suprised in any way to start the pc up and check this thread to find all of this.

I knew everyone was going to be like, "Why would you even think of doing this." To be honest I just wanted to give ATI a shot. I know the GTX destroys the card I bought, I know that 2 of these prolly wont even touch the GTX even. I'm just looking to try out everything this new Mobo I bought has to offer.

Thanks everyone.
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hmm if your into tring new things i got a Ti 4400 from ASUS that needs some lovin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GibbyGano View Post
Meh, 2 X1950 Pros are still cheaper than 1 GTX. I might get flamed for saying this, but they may also outperform a single GTX, they just won't have DX10. I have the X1950Pro except it's 256MB. I love this card, it runs almost anything perfectly, with little to no lag, the only issue I have is due to the fact that my CPU is choking the life out of it.

As far as tips for owning ATI again.

1.DON'T install Catalyst Control Center, just install the driver, if you wan't to tweak use ATI Tray Tools.
2.ATI's RMA is great, they get it back to you in fast and in working condition, God forbid you need to use it, just something good to know.
3.And, as mentioned above, they don't OC well, in fact that may of been how I killed a pixel pipe in mine, not sure, but I RMA'd it and got a new one, so win-win.
x1950xtx in cf wont outperform an 8800gtx.. you are lost..



Why go ati now.. POintless.. you trader.. lolz
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
I have a single 8800GTS now, which outperforms a pair of X1900's in Crossfire that I used to have. Clearly, the 8800GTX will outperform the Crossfired X1950's.
disagree, the X1900 CF beat 8800GTS in min results, same goes for CF X1950 beat 8800GTX.
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Remember the ending of these card names. The X1950XTX and the X1950PRO are no where near in terms of performance. Same with the X1900XTX and the X1900GT.
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