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I've been doing lots of Googling, and this is what I've come up with so far trying to build a rockin' box for about $1K:

Asus P5B Deluxe $190
Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz $225
G.SKILL 2 x 1GB DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 Dual Channel $110
Seagate Baracuda 7200.10 ST3250620AS 250GB 7200 16MB 3.0Gb/s * 3 (RAID 0) $210
EVGA 256-P2-N615-TX GEFORCE 7600GT 256MB DDR3 PCI-E $100
ANTEC TP3-550 TRUEPOWER TRIO ATX 12V 550W $95

Total: $930 + shipping & tax

I'm a programmer first and gamer second, hence my upgrade to 3-striped RAID 0 to try to speed up compiles.

I still need to choose some cooling parts and pick a (hopefully cheap) case. Any suggestions on either would be welcomed. I already have a DVD-RW drive I'm going to swap in.

Any other suggestions on my setup would be appreciated. I'll post reports as I build and then overclock.

TIA,

Blatwurst
    
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post #2 of 11
Get the 8600 instead of 7600.
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Seagate 250GBx3
Lian Li Case G50-A Switched it to a better and cheaper case.
Sapphire X1950XT
Antec TP 550W
G.Skill
Gigabyte 965P
Intel e6320
Tuniq Tower
Total=1010$ before 20$ Rebate.
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AMD 3600x2 ASUS M2A-MVP (Crossfire) 8800GT 512 701/2000 4GB Crucial RAM(Lanfest ED.) 
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2x320gb Seagate RAID SONY DVD+RW XP/Vista westy 
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2x320gb Seagate RAID SONY DVD+RW XP/Vista westy 
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post #4 of 11
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Highwhey thanks, you've given me some intriguing options. I've looked at the reviews of the Gigabyte board, and I think maybe you've sold me on saving $90 there. I think I originally liked the extra RAID options that the higher priced board gave, but I've gotten off of that.

What's the deal with the E6320 vs E6600? I realize that the E6320 has the 4MB cache. So I guess the question is of overclocking headroom. Will the 6320 boost to similar heights as the 6600? Is there any advantage to spending more for the 6600?

I want to keep my gpu cost down to around $100, so I'm not going to flip for the X1950XT.

WAYNE_SONY, thanks for your input. How much better is the 8600. I'm wondering if it is enough of an improvement to pull me off my self-imposed budget for the gpu.

Thanks again guys.
    
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E6420 GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 r2 EVGA 8600GT 256 GDDR3 4 * G.SKILL 1GB DDR2 800Mhz 
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post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by Blatwurst View Post
Highwhey thanks, you've given me some intriguing options. I've looked at the reviews of the Gigabyte board, and I think maybe you've sold me on saving $90 there. I think I originally liked the extra RAID options that the higher priced board gave, but I've gotten off of that.

What's the deal with the E6320 vs E6600? I realize that the E6320 has the 4MB cache. So I guess the question is of overclocking headroom. Will the 6320 boost to similar heights as the 6600? Is there any advantage to spending more for the 6600?

I want to keep my gpu cost down to around $100, so I'm not going to flip for the X1950XT.

WAYNE_SONY, thanks for your input. How much better is the 8600. I'm wondering if it is enough of an improvement to pull me off my self-imposed budget for the gpu.

Thanks again guys.
Purchase the E6320 instead of the E6600, you just have to oc it to get to E6600 speeds or farther, and yes they can oc that far. If you're worried that the e6320 won't clock higher then get the e6420, it's clocked at 2.13ghz and has 4mb cache. With the tuniq tower you will be able to oc well over 3.0ghz if your cpu allows you. Also, the 8600GT offers similiar performance over the 7600GT but it's DX10 and it can be oc'ed really high.
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post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 $95 (open box)
E6420 $185
4 * G.SKILL 1GB DDR2 800Mhz $220 (indulged in a little more ram )
TUNIQ Tower 120 $65
3 * 250GB Seagate Sata II 16MB $210
ANTEC TP3-550 Supply $100
EVGA 8600GT 256 GDDR3 $125
+ a $30 case, some extra fans and heat sink goo

Grand Total = $1050!!!

Notes for those contemplating a similar system:

I already have a spare DVD-RW drive. That would be another $50ish

This price is for single-sourcing from NewEgg. I could have saved about $50 on prices if I bought from three vendors (mWave, ZipZoomFly)

A 2GB system with the DVD-RW drive is just about exactly $1K

More as I build and tweak

PS: I can still change my order if you hurry up and see something I've messed up on.
    
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post #7 of 11
return 2 sticks of ram and the video card and buy an 8800GTS of either flavour. 4 sticks of ram is a waste. 2GB is more than enough unless you're running a server, and without the dual channel you're throughput is gonna plummet.
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post #8 of 11
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Lierman: As I said in my initial post, I'm a programmer first and a gamer second. I will use the extra ram every day...the graphics card only maybe on weekends. I often run a server in a VM, sometimes even two in seperate VMS, since I develop server clustering software.

If the extra ram hurts my gaming experience, I guess I could pull it out if I'm going to just goof off for a weekend.

Why do you say it will hurt my throughput? I believe I read that the GA-965P-DS3 allows 4 x 1GB with no degradation.
    
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post #9 of 11
I just picked these 2gb GEIL sticks , http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144034.
140$ rebate is awesome.
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post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Blatwurst View Post
Lierman: As I said in my initial post, I'm a programmer first and a gamer second. I will use the extra ram every day...the graphics card only maybe on weekends. I often run a server in a VM, sometimes even two in seperate VMS, since I develop server clustering software.

If the extra ram hurts my gaming experience, I guess I could pull it out if I'm going to just goof off for a weekend.

Why do you say it will hurt my throughput? I believe I read that the GA-965P-DS3 allows 4 x 1GB with no degradation.
Do you program on Windows XP? If you program on Windows XP and not Linux or Vista, the extra ram is quite simply a waste because Windows XP only recognizes up to 3-ish GB of ram. After that, it's wasted.

The reason 4GB will perform worse than 2gb is quite simply because your system has to power that ram. Using 4x Dimms will always perform slower than using 2x Dimms when the ram isn't used.

Also, the truth is, the E6600's of recent batches have trouble OC'ing very far so the 6320/6420 probably OC about as high as a 6600 9 times out of 10 if you order them today.

E6600's from a couple months ago though, were OC'ing kings. That's why a lot of people recommend them.

My recommendations:
Intel Core 2 Duo 6320 $165
G.Skill DDR2 800 HZ 2GB kit $110
Gigabyte P35-DS3R $140
Western Digital Caviar 16mb Cache 250GB x3 ($70 each, $210 total)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro $20 At www.svc.com
Cooler Master mid tower $30 at zipzoomfly.com
Antec TruePower Trio 550 or NeoHE $100
Yate Loon D12SL12 fans at www.jab-tech.com x3 $9- total
That leaves you roughly $200 to spend on a graphics card or extra things.

At this point, ask yourself, "Am I going to use Vista?"

If the answer is yes-
Get the 8600GT and the extra 2GB of ram.

If the answer is no-
Get yourself a nice Sapphire 1950XT for $180 and spend the remaining on a VGA cooler like the Accelero X2 or the Evercool Turbo 2.
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