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Oh.. the color on the inside top of the Swiftech GTX is going to fade and there'll be some black dye coming off. Not to worry. Its perfectly normal. No, the top of the Apogee GTX is not made of delrin, but those who are scared of any use of aluminum are foolish because the plating is of considerable quality. Don't even think of painting anything on the inside of the block. You will wreck the highest performing water block in the market.
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Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
pictures paint 1000 words iany:







If these bother you, get a soft toothbrush, and scrub the dye off b4 you drop it into the loop. that silver underside is nickle plate.

And you guys should really listen to iany. He and nikhsub are probably the only people i can think of on this forum whose had the block b4 i did. I was part of the review that went on this forum.

But YES it does come off, that was done on dual DDC-2. I have a RD-30 now, and i scrubed the dye off, with a soft toothbrush. And it comes out very easily with warm water.
Swiftech APOGEE GTX aluminium plating "sucks" ????
****

Had anyone any problems with this stuff
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I know it thats why I never suggest them to anyone..Or the GT either because you have to bow the bases with an O-Ring to get them to work right....The Fuzion is the only new commercial CPU block I suggest for anyone...

EDIT: Didn't you already post this same thing a week or so ago?
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That's interesting, my friend has had an Apogee GT without bowing for over a year, used to cool his skt478 prescott 3.2, now on his 6300. all he ever did was lap it. oh and one time he didnt secure the screws his 6300 got to >100C. how did it survive? idk LOL....
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wow, i'd have figured they'd do a good job plating the alu top since the base and innards are copper. guess not.
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Makes me happy I chose FuZion.
    
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Makes me happy I chose FuZion.
Me tooo
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hmmm on second read thru...

isn't it just the paint coming off?
the inside's nickel-plated so it doesn't corrode.
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FuZion FTW!
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post #9 of 13
There is nothing wrong with the Apogee GTX--I have 5 Storm waterblocks a REv 1 Apogee, two Apogee GTX and 4 D-Tek FuZion. I know all about these waterblocks firsthand--I know how they perform--what they are made off--their strengths and weaknesses. I was watercooliong long before it became "cool" to do so.

IMO the Storm is the last "quality" waterblock from Swiftech. They took Cathar's beautiful handcrafted WB and made it into a production block--of course some of the finesse was lost. Each suceeding WB from Swiftech from then on has been of lower quality.

IMO the GTX is a very flashy looking block--perfect eye candy to lure a would be WCer into the loop so to speak--but it is not a high qualilty piece of work--it's okay--there is nothing structurally wrong with it--it works without bowing...bowing simply increases it's ability--even without bowing it will hang with the big dogs. But still it is not of the same high quality as the Apogee or Storm. You can feel it--it's very light and the hold down is stamped out to look beefy without actually being beefy.

The FuZion is a decent block--the base is nice and flat and it is relatively simple to install. Of the four I received they all had the same scratch marks on the hold down plates--plated right over--not a good sign IMO. But these are just hold down plates so whatever. Another small flaw IMO is that the hold down must be installed before the tubing--if you use semipermanent clamps this can be a real PITA if changing from AMD to Intel or vice versa.

You guys are niggling over 1C-2C differences in some excellent blocks. I am concerned about the dye...as that is something that bespeaks low quality and low quality control at Swiftech. But the nickle plate should provide appropriate electrolysis protection.

Unfortunately WaterCooling has become a real moneymaker for these greedy mfrs.

The sudden upswing in pricing on the MCP 655--the proliferation of dozens and dozens of nearly identical rads all copying each other (and all mfred in Asian Sweatshops) and the ridiculous pricing on coolants (averaging $20/quart) should be signs enough for "Buyer Beware" and to really do your research before buying.

Watercooling somehow is becoming semi-mainstream and that is usually a bad thing. Once the province of seasoned geeks now any n00b with a CC can order one of a hundred different setups...even a $400 LC Case. That has fueled a frenzy in the Performance PC niche market...

I predict even worse will soon hit the market--so before you buy and cry make sure to get it from the horse's mouth--someone with first hand experience.
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post #10 of 13
Even if its nickel plated one chip or little scratch and your down to the aluminum...I wish they still sold the origional Apogee that was a great block....
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