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Intel Turbo Memory for Desktops?

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We've seen a few of these dotted round the show, but on inquiring whether we'll see one soon, the answer has unfortunately been a unilateral "no".

Why so? Surely a Robson module on desktops will not only make use of PCI-Express, it'll bring Intel more money and it'll also improve performance for everyone.

No one has yet given a concrete reason, only speculation and also stating that it may be as late as next year when we get one. And by that time we will see version two arrive with a 4GB module and more performance.

Can you hack one in? Surely the support is there on the chipset and a bit of NAND with a PCI-Express controller can't be that hard to do? Apparently not, as Intel has locked everything down. Thus, it'll take a lot of reverse BIOS engineering to get it to work properly.

There is yet more hidden technology inside Intel's 3-series chipsets, it seems...

For those slightly out the loop, Turbo Memory was first shown off on Intel's new Santa Rosa platform for laptops. It makes use of both ReadyDrive and ReadyBoost by using a 1GB NAND flash module on a PCI-Express connection. It speeds up application performance by having a far greater I/O than any hard drive, meaning pagefile access is faster. Sure, you can plonk in a fast USB stick but PCI-Express has more bandwidth over a dedicated connection and is more integrated into the system.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/06...for_desktops/1

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cool. better battery life.
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What is this?...
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I would like a 4GB (or more) NAND drive not just for ready boost but perhaps to install MS Office, FireFox / IE7, or Outlook on. Those applications that are commonly used would launch and run so much faster being on a NAND drive.
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There was a post not to long ago about how Dell isnt going to use this, so I'm not sure how effective it is.
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There was a post not to long ago about how Dell isnt going to use this, so I'm not sure how effective it is.
HP isn't going to use Turbo Memory in their notebooks. Everyone is using it though.
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It was HP. Article here.

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HP doesn't see the added value in adding Intel Turbo Memory to its notebooks


When Intel launched its Santa Rosa platform, many new features were added to improve notebook performance. Intel bumped the front side bus to 800MHz, added new Merom-based Core 2 Duo processors along with Intel Active Management Technology 2.5, the GMA X3100 integrated graphics solution and the Intel Wireless Wi-Fi Link 4965AGN Draft-N network adapter.

The company also announced NAND flash-based Intel Turbo Memory which is aimed at improving performance and increasing battery life for notebooks in Windows Vista. Intel claims that Turbo Memory (which is available in 512MB or 1GB varieties) can provide up to 2x faster loading times with applications and a 20 percent decrease when booting Windows Vista.

Although Intel makes these claims for Turbo Memory performance, the results in the real world haven't been as promising. Hewlett-Packard has publicly stated that it hasn't been impressed with Turbo Memory performance and that its notebook computers will not carry the feature.

"We have done quite a bit of research on this [to see] whether there is any true value for our customers, rather than taking what is available and putting it in," said HP's Steven Gales to ZDNET UK. "We added 1GB of RAM and saw a much higher improvement in performance compared to using any of the ReadyBoost or Robson technology. If you have enough system RAM in the system already, ReadyBoost doesn't give you a lot."

HP also took issue with the fact that the use of Turbo Memory onboard a notebook locks out the customer from adding a ReadyBoost compliant Secure Digital card or USB thumb drive to improve system performance.

"A customer can have more flexibility with an SD card or USB key because they can choose for themselves (when to add it and) pick the price point at which they want to add that technology. We're not forcing them into paying X and being locked into 512MB," Gales continued.

Finally, HP showed concern over the price of the Turbo Memory module. HP points out that Intel charges around $50 for the 1GB module. On the other hand, a consumer could pick up a 2GB Secure Digital card for around $20 and get roughly the same performance boost in Windows Vista.
http://www.dailytech.com/HP+Shuns+In...rticle7552.htm
Intel was going to charge an arm and a leg for it. But it's interesting to see it on the PCI-E bus. AMD will probably toss one on Hypertransport next.
    
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