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No typo, I feel sorry for you if you like flat, because that means you would only have 1 10" subwoofer turned way down, and that would prob... still be too loud.
Again, you're obviously not into high end audio. Artificially boosting bass and treble to band-aid cheap equipment gives you what you pay for. The end result is far from what's achievable with better equipment. With the finest of equipment, you'll never see bass or treble knobs, loudness buttons,dancing lights, or equalizers. They simply don't need it. Do yourself a favor and visit a high end boutique and enter a new realm of audio. It's expensive, sure, but it's way beyond anything you've ever heard.

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I have sold and installed Audio Equipment for 10+years, and I have never tuned a system for flat, and had a customer like it. Extra Bass, and Extra High's are allways a must.
Again, you're obviously dealing with brands like Harmon Kardon, Nakamichi, Pioneer, etc and thinking that's high fidelity. Those are low and mid-fi components and also sound as such. Any high end audio component or speaker system will have as close to flat frequency response as physically possible. If you have a high quality source, you won't be forced to mask it in order to make it tolerable to listen to. Don't take my word for it, look at any of the nicer components and you'll never find tonal controls of any kind. Better yet, set an appointment up at a high end boutique and learn what's possible in high fidelity. Warning though....these systems can cost as much as a nice condo, but the sound is far beyond all of that low-fi crap.
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what r u guys arguing about?
using Flat EQ or not.... it's not like we're talking about graphic cards here.... our ears have their own preferences, one might suit himself while the other isn't...

doesn't matter if u use $1000 or $100000 audio equipments, still... some ppl might like Flat EQ, and some other don't... end of story!

yes... Flat EQ at $100000 audio equipments might have the divine clarity a sound can have, the most realistic sound a person can hear (u might have orgasm while listening to women moaning in porn DVDs) but still... some prefer using Custom EQ to suit their Music or Movie genre.

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Just want to introject that EQ depends heavily on the room. Most systems will need a little bit of an EQ to sound good in the given room they are located. The only way not to have this is to have high quality components to begin with and to have the room acoustically dampened. Typically only Audiophiles will do this.

And to the general public's ears lots of bass and highs is a must... they are conditioned to crappy sound because that is what they are used to. Take a Bose system for example.... extremely crappy sound and yet it's the 'ideal' to like 80% of Americans!
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I think this thread is a prime example of how personal tastes in music, and thus, music hardware are. Everybody has a different opinion of what "sounds good", and everybody has different opinions of the hardware they need to achieve that. There is the audiophile, and then there is the audio-equipment-ophile, and we are all both at times. However, that's not to say that it's OK to try and bring down the choices of others, just because that is not the choice you would have made. To debate and question is perfectly OK, to suggest that you are something along the lines of an audio messiah due to your equipment is not.
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Again, you're obviously not into high end audio. Artificially boosting bass and treble to band-aid cheap equipment gives you what you pay for. The end result is far from what's achievable with better equipment. With the finest of equipment, you'll never see bass or treble knobs, loudness buttons,dancing lights, or equalizers. They simply don't need it. Do yourself a favor and visit a high end boutique and enter a new realm of audio. It's expensive, sure, but it's way beyond anything you've ever heard.


Again, you're obviously dealing with brands like Harmon Kardon, Nakamichi, Pioneer, etc and thinking that's high fidelity. Those are low and mid-fi components and also sound as such. Any high end audio component or speaker system will have as close to flat frequency response as physically possible. If you have a high quality source, you won't be forced to mask it in order to make it tolerable to listen to. Don't take my word for it, look at any of the nicer components and you'll never find tonal controls of any kind. Better yet, set an appointment up at a high end boutique and learn what's possible in high fidelity. Warning though....these systems can cost as much as a nice condo, but the sound is far beyond all of that low-fi crap.
Actually, I do use Pioneer I use 2 1974 Pioneer Solid State Amps, and build my own towers which include Car audio Pioneer Premier Prs speakers tst3prs, tsm7prs, and tsw12prs. I am sure if you know anything about speakers you will find that these are top notch. Pull up some info on them and read the specs. I don't think you will find any other mid like it, or a Silk dome tweeter that will produce down to 2khz, or a sub that has VCCS "voice coil cooling system". And If I had the $ I would own Mcintosh tube amps, which btw do have bass and treble knobs. I use car audio speakers, because I can get ts paramaters on them and build my own boxes dead on spec. If I were to shop for towers to = these with Home audio equipment I am sure it would cost well over $10k, but lucky me I know how to build a box and retail on all these High end transducers are $2000.00 the wood and all parts cost me about $70.00. The system can easily produce flat res, but I do have the bass turned up a little, and the treble up a little. Just like 99% of my customers do.
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yea, I know that flat isn't nice, it just helps me create something knowing what it really sounds like... then I listen to it with my personal EQ settings and in the TV speakers, home entertainment, and any other system I can...

that is such a great idea about the car speakers for towers! I mean there is such a market that you get a great deal and you do get the specs... never noticed how you don't for home stuff but I always saw the charts and such for car stuff... I just sold my car which had two 10" in a custom box built by someone like you and I will miss the sound system more than the car...

there is so much knowledge in this thread yet I am broke and whilst I drool about the possibilities I am going insane mixing a movie... thank goodnes I got my trusty MDR-7506 Sony headphones to save my arse... they may not reproduce lows as well as I need them to but the Klipsch sub will help me get an idea after playing with the EQ and Sub gain for days to try to "ear-ball" a flat response...


I do have to confess that I like close to flat if I have to leave the EQ alone for a while... however I am one of those that constantly messes with the EQ... changing it almost always at the beginning of every song... (I miss having a hard interface for my EQ)
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