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do you have higher flow or foe flow? what comes of a G1/4--1/4" inlet/outlet with a high flow barb (bottleneck)..... and how does the few cooler blocks out there with the 9/16--1/2" inlet/oulet compare here are some photos and side by side looks at the difference.......

The Danger den TDX comes with 9/16--1/2" inlets/outlets......and you get the 9/16 1/2" high flow barbs.... the walls are thin in the barbs but thats ok......much better than the 1/4" the other block designers have there heads up their buts

I don't understand why they don't make blocks with big inlets...... you can allways use a smaller barb but still have better flow if you want to use the big pipes....

I will show you some differences bettween g1/4--1/4" and the 9/16--1/2"
below is a Danger Den TDX 9/16--1/2" and a block with g1/4"--1/4" remember that the only difference bettween g1/4 and 1/4" inlets is the thread length they are both 1/4"


here is are some side by sides of the 1/4" barb and the 9/16--1/2" barb


Inside I.D. of the 9/16--1/2" is 3/8" strong (1/32 over)

New TDX top for LGA775 (left) socket 462 (right)


swiftech makes some block that are higher flowing like the danger den tdx

I believe that this is the sw60 block can't remember


If you want to push a 1/2" of water through a 1/4" hole........I don't know maybe when you ask were is the restriction in my loop at...... there you go.......
Besides the radiator being restrictive....................................... ........!

So do you have a block with so called 1/2" fitting screwed into a 1/4" hole..
I have and have gone away from it when I first ordered a WC setup I looked over the spec's and made sure that everything was Higher flow with the 9/16--1/2" inlet/oulet ...Rad ...Pump....Gpu...Cpu....Res....

I hope this was worth your time reading.... I just don't want someone to order the wrong costly stuff and find out they don't have enough flow..

Thanks for taking the time to read my babel.......
    
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I know it and it sucks...They are all going over to the G-1/4 it seems I have no idea why..Measure the ID on the barb its right at 7/16" that will bottleneck it to 7/16" anyway....
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ya still better than 1/4"

careful what you buy right!
    
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post #4 of 10
Yeah but the G1/4 is a pipe fitting size the ID on it is 7/16" just like th e ID of a 1/2" barb so there is really no restriction...I liked the 9/16" better anyway.. ...But they say the new G1/4 should flow better because there is less turbulence at the junction....Who knows....
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I think you should check on that... the only difference from the g1/4 and the1/4" is the thread the G1/4 has a parallel thread with a 1/4" O.D. sim to BSPP thread... the good thing about the G1/4 is that it is not tappered like the standard 1/4" NPT we use (USA)..... thus allowing a slightly larger gain in I.D...... but not 7/16" you can't take a 1/4" hole and fit 7/16" inside.......9/16 with 1/2" barb yes.....

I would like to see 5/8" barbs on the coolers so that I can get a true 1/2" I.D. you don't need any hose clamps if you can get the 1/2" on the 5/8" barb....I use a 5/8" Y in my setup
    
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I think you should check on that... the only difference from the g1/4 and the1/4" is the thread the G1/4 has a parallel thread with a 1/4" O.D. sim to BSPP thread... the good thing about the G1/4 is that it is not tappered like the standard 1/4" NPT we use (USA)..... thus allowing a slightly larger gain in I.D...... but not 7/16" you can't take a 1/4" hole and fit 7/16" inside.......9/16 with 1/2" barb yes.....

I would like to see 5/8" barbs on the coolers so that I can get a true 1/2" I.D. you don't need any hose clamps if you can get the 1/2" on the 5/8" barb....I use a 5/8" Y in my setup
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Well I took some shakey shots and a DD high flow threaded end ID is 10mm or 0.39" as is the 1/2" tubing ID end...Which is a little off I couldn't find my .64" steel rule it comes out closer to 7/16" I've measured them with it before...


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Yeah it's a bummer on the G1/4 standard that's progressing. It's probably not a big deal for inlets where you want the higher velocities, but outlets and especially radiator and reservoirs...why go smaller?
    
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yes 10mm is 3/8" and the 13mm is 1/2"

Like I said by not tappering the threads as in a npt you gain min. I.D. thanks for the added pictures.... I'm not the smoothest camera shot myself.

Why can't we get the makers to put in some bigger ports on the coolers
    
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The G-1/4 metric started in Europe and then its becoming the standard here to...Sucks...On your rads you might be able to drill and tap to a larger size just don't get the bosses around the barbs to thin or it may weaken it to much...


I just added a second pump in series to get more flow it seemed like the easiest route...But then you have double the heat dump from the pumps to contend with which means you need a bigger rad and or higher cfm fans...
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