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post #11 of 27
wow very nice Martin! im going for a similar set-up with 2 loops and 2 655 pumps, our rigs are starting to look more and more the same LOL.

I see those bloack zip ties on the T line so you can see the level!!!

Smart!!!!
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Thanks!

BTW...I didn't like my new fans either..lol! Tried the Panaflos and they are really nice industrial grade fans (they are built like a tank and just feel of quality), but I think since the hub diameter is nearly twice the size of a consumer grade 120mm fan, it needs a shroud. I also had to undervolt them down to like 6v to get about the same air flow and noise as the D12SL12 loons, and at 6V they had a more irritating motor sound than the loons at full speed. But in the end I found that my water temps went up about .5 to 1C when running the panaflows slow like that. All I can think is the hub size difference. Anyway I'm still happy with my water temps using the loons, and now that I have two loops even adding another 8800 will only raise the GPU loop which can handle the heat just fine.

Anyway went back to the loons, I'll have to find a different task for the panaflos.
    
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I can think of a good task for your Panaflos.

I call it the - "Make back some cash" cooling loop.

First, you sell them, and then you have money.

Good plan, no?

I'm infatuated with Yate Loons. I've worked with a LOT of case fans and a lot of cooling set ups and there's just no competition for the Yate Loons. Paired with a fan controller they're literally the best fans on the market. You can take them down to 5 or 7 volts and they're as quiet as Nexus Quiet Case fans, or you can run them at stock 12v voltage and they're still just a light roaring sound (Something like 24-26 DBA) but they push a lot of air.

I don't like hype surrounding some fans. The only fan other than the Yate Loon I like is the Antec Tri-Cool Red LED, and the only reason for that is because it's the ONLY freakin' red LED fan I can find for less than $17 that has good quality and no hype. I wouldn't spend $20-25 on a SilenX red LED Ixtrema fan.

Anyway, very nice set up.
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Thanks!

BTW...I didn't like my new fans either..lol! Tried the Panaflos and they are really nice industrial grade fans (they are built like a tank and just feel of quality), but I think since the hub diameter is nearly twice the size of a consumer grade 120mm fan, it needs a shroud. I also had to undervolt them down to like 6v to get about the same air flow and noise as the D12SL12 loons, and at 6V they had a more irritating motor sound than the loons at full speed. But in the end I found that my water temps went up about .5 to 1C when running the panaflows slow like that. All I can think is the hub size difference. Anyway I'm still happy with my water temps using the loons, and now that I have two loops even adding another 8800 will only raise the GPU loop which can handle the heat just fine.

Anyway went back to the loons, I'll have to find a different task for the panaflos.
WOW...You think the 80's are loud? I can barely hear them...Try the 115's.. ..I guess I'm just used to the bigger fans...Yeah you should use a shroud no doubt but thats with any fans to close the dead spot...
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Looks nice but why not just use a bay res or something so you didnt need those 2 Tlines

I think those are the only things that look messy
    
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WOW...You think the 80's are loud? I can barely hear them...Try the 115's.. ..I guess I'm just used to the bigger fans...Yeah you should use a shroud no doubt but thats with any fans to close the dead spot...
LOL! They are really not that loud, and I'd be fine with the noise if I needed the additional air flow, they were just very slightly louder than the loons when undervolted. Right now I'm just not pulling enough heat from the blocks to need much airflow across the radiators, and I think the swifty rads are open enough and thin enough that they don't really need much pressure. The Panaflos are however one heck of a fan, holding one in your hand gives you that "Now that's a FAN impression". The thickness of the material and overall industrial quality is very apparent. Makes the loons look tiny and fragile in comparison:



I guess I have enough frontal surface area that the cheap little loons seem to be moving enough air across them. My coolant temp is about 2C higher than ambient, so improving the airflow across the radiators isn't going to do much. I did build myself sort of a dense foam floating attachment system which pulled them away from the rad fins about 3/8" more, but like you said before...you probably need 1.5" or more shroud separation especially with the larger hub size to even the pull across the radiator.



I really like the fans, but I think their strength is in heavy duty applications where you need the pressure capability, particularly for thick dense finned radiators, and you also really need a shroud to help offset the large hub size. There is no doubt in my mind a high performance radiator like the HW GTX series needs this type of fan to really take advantage of the fin density, and have the pressure capability to pull the air through it. The MCR320 is so open finned and thin that the loons do alright. Who knows maybe I'll get a pelt someday... at that point the MCR320s probably would struggle and I'd need to be looking at some better radiators....I have the fans for it already..
    
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Hey the foam will seal the fans to the rad anyway and make it air tight...I use clear silicone to seal mine or those cheap fan silencer gaskets...Rad overkill is good and pump overkill is good.... ....Take care of those and its easier to optimize the rest of the loop....On your CPU only loop if you get a Stinger CPU block with its large barbs your loop would be flow optimized since you already have the larger ID fittings....You would like playing with Pelts....
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Yeah I've been thinking about the stinger, along with maybe trying to make my own block. I might have access to a full machine shop where I used to work, that would be alot of fun milling out some different ideas and testing them out...the options would be endless.

Then there is the pelt thought, but I think I'll wait on that for a little while..
    
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If you do make one keep it simple fstfrddy's are simple and keep up or are better than the big dogs in WC'ing blocks temp wise and they are a lot better looking and better made........You can make a good block on a drill-press using milling bits....

Yeah there is no need to rush into Pelting just take your time and do it when you want to...Its really best to wait till your WC'ing is second nature to you anyway....Its fun though all kinds of little parts to make...
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Hey martin to mount those rads like that did you have to make some brackets or did the case come with some brackets that allow you to mount them on there. I havnt played with a armor since I built a air cooled rig for a coworker about a year ago.
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