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Well guys Im really quite curious what you guys say. Ive been interested in getting a barcelona, but finding out that its a opteron Im not that anxious any more. Ive heard that they are coming out with a desktop version and I looked it up and its called a Phenom. Ive never been big on server processors since im sorta old fashioned thinking that they wont be great for hardcore gaming as the x2's... Im wondering which you think will be the better choice to buy and why? Do you think it will be worth it to wait for the Phenom or get the barcelonas when they come out? I really want a quad and im a die hard amd fan. Hearing how barcelona will be 20% faster than intel quads I became so delighted. But will the Phenom beat the barcelonas?


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I thought the phenom series was just going to include dual-core for the moment, I'm not sure if they are using a quad-core architechture like barcelona.
    
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Nothing wrong with server proccesors as far as gaming goes. There built to endure more than a desktop proccesor.
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they are making the phenom x4 which ofcourse will be a quad, and they are also making a duel core version AFTER they release the x4

you can read about it here
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/0,1...9287059,00.htm


I know but the pent 4 was built to be a workstation chip thus more like a server chip but when the athlons came they blew the pent 4 out of the water, so ive never gone for more server chips cause Ive always had part of my brain tell me the same thing will happen that will happen to the pents
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Barcelona isnt even gonna be available for desktop motherboards, it's socket 1207 while the desktop chips will use AM2+ (backwards compatible with AM2) and later AM3.

Yes there will be both Phenom X2's and X4's - and there's no reason now to get a server chip where possible, half this board use Opterons as they perform almost exactly the same as desktop chips and they overclock better
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Barcelona is the name of the architecture AKA K10 and Phenom is the line of chips that will use the Barcelona architecture for desktops, just like Athlons were the desktop name for chips using the K8 architecture.
    
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Barcelona is the name of the architecture AKA K10 and Phenom is the line of chips that will use the Barcelona architecture for desktops, just like Athlons were the desktop name for chips using the K8 architecture.
He is right they all use the k10 cores but the server procs will have some tweek to make the more "fit" for the life of a server CPU.I dont realy care for server procs any way,they show no realy proformance boost and they overclock on 3-5% better than desktop procs.I plan on getting a quad Phenom in the next year or so and may be just maybe a am2+ mobo.but i realy whant an AM3 for DDR3
    
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He is right they all use the k10 cores but the server procs will have some tweek to make the more "fit" for the life of a server CPU.I dont realy care for server procs any way,they show no realy proformance boost and they overclock on 3-5% better than desktop procs.I plan on getting a quad Phenom in the next year or so and may be just maybe a am2+ mobo.but i realy whant an AM3 for DDR3
So which you think will be better the barcelona opti's or the Phenom... Is it worth holding out for the quad desktops will the barcelona be a better choice
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once again, you will not get Barcelona in your desktop. Barcelona is not the equivalent of Athlon. Barcelona is the name of one particular core, like Toledo or Brisbane, not the name of a whole line of processors. The server cores will be Opterons as now, some of which will use the Barcelona core, the desktop line will be the Phenom which will use initially the Agena and Kuma cores. The architecture as a whole is called K10

There may eventually be K10 Opterons available for desktop motherboards but so far as I know at launch there is no comparison - its Phenom for desktop and Phenom alone
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you cant get a server proc,they are socket 1207 the quad core phenoms are coming out first i think,Before the dual cores,you will only have to what a couple more months any ways.
    
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