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The Fuzion is one of the least restrictive CPU blocks out now....The D-Tek GPU block is restrictive not the cpu...
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I read that the Thermaltake fans are very bad and are actually a little robust in their DB claims, and someone told me the Fuzion CPU block is restrictive.

In the review you showed me, the Fuzion is 1-2c cooler than the Apogee GT. But the GT is like $44 and the Fuzion CPU is like $60.
I am currently using 3 blue Thermaltake fans in my case on high setting. All I hear is my 4 SilverStone FM121 fans on med setting. Thunderblades are not load in my opinion. The point is to get some fans to push the air out within your price range. Another good fans Sythe double ball bearing can be pricey. I am not sure where you are getting your info the negative things on the fans and D-Tek beeing restrictive? But I think what you are trying to accomplish with your buget is way out of reach. Good luck.
    
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How about the D-Tek Fuzion CPU block? Is it just as restrictive as the GPU block? Should I go with an Apogee GT?
No, the CPU block D-tek Fuzion is one of the better in terms of restriction. Using the manufacturers specs:

At 2 gal/min is has a 2.2psi drop:



The Apogee GT is close, possibly just slightly more restrictive, maybe 2.6 psi at 2 gal/min


The fuzion has an interesting internal design where the it has 4 outlets into the top chamber which is then combined into one. I took it apart thinking I could find some rough edges to clean up, but other than the gasket mess they left, the casings of the copper and derlin pieces are really good, many bends were nicely radiused.
    
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I think I've been bitten by the Swiftech bug or something, this is what I'll most likely be ordering:

Swiftech MCP655 B No Speed Controller $68.95
Swiftech Apogee GT Universal $45.95
Swiftech MCW60R $44.90
Swiftech MCR320 QP $44.95
Swiftech MCRES1000 Micro $16.95
Swiftech MC14 VGA Ramsink $15.95
Swiftech Hydrx Additive $1.99
Primochill Red 1/2" x5 Feet $6.25
Distilled Water 2x Gallons $2.00

Total comes out to roughly $247.89. I'll already have 5x Yate Loon D12SM-12 fans (70CFM 30dba) from the air cooling I'll be using until then.

I'm debating between the Fuzion CPU block. I know a lot of you are going to try to emphasize getting it, but what you're missing is that it's $15 that can go pretty much anywhere else in the build. The $15 could go toward a better pump, better fans, plus I'm setting aside another $20-30 other than the $247 to compensate possible mod requirements, glue, fittings, clamps. I just don't see the justification in going with a Fuzion over an Apogee GT when the Apogee is such a nicely designed block, gives me some color coordination. (As you can tell from the red primochill tubing, I'm a bit of a color/looks kind of guy) Not to mention, the Fuzion is only 1-2c better than the Apogee GT at load temps, and only has a noticeable idle temp performance. I think the review showed the Fuzion idling 2-3c better than the GT.

As far as the radiator, is 70cfm fans paired onto an MCR320 the right choice? I was trying to go based off the advice given here. I can't afford Thermochill or Black Ice GTX. $100 on a radiator is a bit extreme for me. Also, I'm not too much worried about heat in my loop from the video-card at the moment, because I'll be using my 7950GT 512mb until more DX10 software surfaces and I can get a better standpoint on where the DX10 performance lies with new cards. Seeing 8800GTX SLI's getting like 35-45 FPS in the latest DX10 games has me a little flustered to actually consider a 320mb 8800GTS.

The only DX9 game my card can't handle at maximum settings is Oblivion and maybe Supreme Commander or STALKER, but I don't even like those games.

As for the radiator, is intake the ideal way to position the fans? Air flow into the radiator? And is mounting it outside the case the best way? I plan on custom mounting it on top of my case and maybe making a radiator box that molds into the shape of the case so my case looks like it came that way. Will the fans pull enough air to keep the radiator cool if they're aimed downward on top of the case?

I figure it'd be ideal since my apartment I'm moving into has the A/C vent above the room and I have a ceiling fan, so good air flow will be coming from above the case rather than from a floor fan or window.
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Personally, if you don't have the $$$ to spend more for the Fuzion, then I'd go with the GT. And spend the difference somewhere else

As for either pulling or pushing air. It doesn't matter really, I know pulling air out will yield 1-2C better temp then pushing. However, i zip tied my PA120.3 right next to the windows so using cool air from outside pushing it through the rad = making more sense to me.
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