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post #1 of 12
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hi im new to this fourm but i have been looking into the phase change cooling

i was wondering what are the danjers how much it cost and is it a good idea for a beginer cause i dont wana buy water cooling i just wana skip to phase change

also what do i need

1 more thing i was thinking about mabe making a hole through my table and keeping the phase change in my top drawr with fan ducts for it and just have the thinggo through the table
post #2 of 12
Well its definatly not for beginners. It isnt too hard but you can really mess up yor stuff if you dont insulate it properly. I used air cooling then water for a couple of years then moved on to phase. Its alot of fun and all but you should probably do water first but its up to you.

It will cost you anywhere from around $400 used on up to $1100 for a full commercial setup like the machIIgt with a case and stuff that you need. There are a few people that make custom units that you can order from but it can usually take a little bit but youll get better performance. There arent really any dangers to it atleast no more then using a window mount AC unit. The dangers are if you dont take your time to condensation proof your mobo during install then yes you will break something. I have used mine for over 5600 hours and have not broke anything yet but I am careful with my setup.

Please fill in your system specs so we can get a better idea of what you are going to be using it on and all that.

As for the table idea I think it could work but really I would either just put it on a open bay or on the table or just get a case that it is mounted in or under. Thats just my opinion though.
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umm what steps are necessary to prepare your motherboard for use with the mach ii? im considering getting one, but i dont want to have to do one of those things where you paint your whole motherboard with that sealant.

Ive seen that the cooling arm is heated to prevent condensation on the arm. will this heat up other components around it or no?

Also with the CPU area... Is the sealstring enough around the cpu or are some other steps needed?

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umm what steps are necessary to prepare your motherboard for use with the mach ii? im considering getting one, but i dont want to have to do one of those things where you paint your whole motherboard with that sealant.

Ive seen that the cooling arm is heated to prevent condensation on the arm. will this heat up other components around it or no?

Also with the CPU area... Is the sealstring enough around the cpu or are some other steps needed?

Thanks,
With regards,
Alphachicken
You don't need to coat the whole motherboard. You do need to take steps to prevent condensation in the socket and the area around it.

No, the heat is not THAT hot.
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but it is hot enough to keep condensation from dripping off of the arm?

also, should i go with a custom build unit or should i buy a mach ii gt? i really need help deciding. I have no idea where to start. I know how the coolers work, but other than that i need lots of advice on whats the best way to phase change.
post #6 of 12
Assuming that it's heated in order to prevent condensation, I would say it should be hot enough to prevent condensation... And if you do decide to go to Phase Change cooling, make sure you take extreme care and that you read as much as you can about installations before you do it.
    
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i didnt know how effective the heating was. anyways....

I have decided to go phase change i just dont know where to start. If i cant find a workable solution, then ill just decide not to go phase change.

Im planning on trying to phase change one of the new penryn cores that will be coming out end of year/beginning of '08. Im not sure if a mach ii gt can cool these cores efficiently. they will be quad core but 45 nm process, so im not sure if their heat output will be too much for the mach ii to handle or whether i should look into getting a custom solution.
post #8 of 12
I would look into getting a custom phase system for now if your going to go quadcore. I think with the lower power output of the newer quads coming out I am hoping that I cna run my machIIgt on them but Ill have to wait and see. By then I may get it worked over to make it more of a custom unit.
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post #9 of 12
where can i look at different custom units, how much can they cost, how much time would they take. who makes them that is very reliable?

and thanks so much for the prompt replies so far.
post #10 of 12
can anyone point me to someone reliable who makes custom phase changers?
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