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I recently had all the USB ports on my motherboard die, so I figured it was time to make the transition to Core 2 Duo. I'm only going to be getting motherboard, memory, and processor. I have a couple questions regarding choices. There's really only one stipulation being that the total price must be below $600 CDN. That means no Newegg. My thoughts so far have been:

Processor:
E6600 // E6420 // E6320

I realize I can just buy a 6320 and OC to 6600 speeds, but I'm tempted to just get the 6600 and overclock it that much higher. Would there be any fundamental reason to choose one over the other (architecture/feature-wise) or is it totally a price thing?

Memory:

$189 - Buffalo Firestix FSX1000D2C-K2G - 2GB DDR2-1000, 5-5-5
$119 -
Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - 2GB DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12

I'm really clueless when it comes to DDR2, but both of these seemed like viable options. I WILL be overclocking, so I'm wondering if I should be going for DDR2-800 or something better. Also, G.Skill and Team Group is ridiculously overpriced in Canada, so please try to suggest something from either canadacomputers.com or ncix.com.

Motherboard:

Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 // EVGA Nforce 650I Ultra

Both of these are almost identical in price, so I'm favouring either one. Is there a clear cut winner in either case? Also, what is the difference between the DS3 965P and 965G? I don't want SLI, but I would like a board that can keep up with my processor and memory in terms of ocing.

I'm looking to stay very affordable, but also have a decent running rig that can keep up with an eventual DX10 card. Any suggestions or clarification is greatly appreciated.
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I recently had all the USB ports on my motherboard die, so I figured it was time to make the transition to Core 2 Duo.
You know it'd be cheaper to just get a USB2.0 PCI card, don't you?

But if you do plan on the C2D set-up? Wait till the end of July, you'd save a few more bucks.

And for RAM, certainly no FUBARSTIX, get G.Skill HZ. And an ASUS P5B-Plus.
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http://canadacomputers.com/index.php...25&cid=RAM.835 Mushkin isn't bad and it is DDR2 800 for $169.99
194.99
http://canadacomputers.com/index.php...484&cid=CPU.84 for the 4mb L2 cache

http://canadacomputers.com/index.php...413&cid=MB.157 P5B-E Not the best but I use this and it has been good to me.$170.99

$535.97 BEFORE shipping,Under $600 and maybe enough to pick up another harddrive.

EDIT once more...The P5B-E is an easy overclocker as well and thatis what you are interested in.
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I don't know about Canada, but in the US, the Q6600 will drop to $266 on July 22nd.

DS3 965P vs the G. G has onboard video which will interfere with your overclocks. So I would go with the P version.

RAM: Try to find these on Canadian stores that you're going to be purchasing at. These are really good RAMs. They can hit 1100Mhz with some voltage upped on it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065
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You know it'd be cheaper to just get a USB2.0 PCI card, don't you?

But if you do plan on the C2D set-up? Wait till the end of July, you'd save a few more bucks.

And for RAM, certainly no FUBARSTIX, get G.Skill HZ. And an ASUS P5B-Plus.
Well obviously it would just be cheaper to get a PCI USB card, but there's no fun in that! I've just been itching to go for an upgrade and between RAM prices taking a dive and this recent USB thing, I figured it was time. As far as waiting until the end of July, are large price drops anticipated? I tend to not play the waiting came with computer stuff because it's always going to be getting cheaper. If the savings will be substantial I may consider it.

With respect to memory, as I mentioned, G.Skill is ridiculously overpriced (and hard to come by) in Canada. The HZ is sitting pretty at $313, which I can not justify paying.

I was thinking the Asus P5B, but I don't want to shell out for the deluxe (which unfortunately seems worth every penny). I'll have to do a bit more searching.

Also, is there any reason (other than price) to go for the E6320 over the 6600? And secondly, does the 6420 provide a decent compromise between the two or is it just better to go one or the other?
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Well obviously it would just be cheaper to get a PCI USB card, but there's no fun in that! I've just been itching to go for an upgrade and between RAM prices taking a dive and this recent USB thing, I figured it was time. As far as waiting until the end of July, are large price drops anticipated? I tend to not play the waiting came with computer stuff because it's always going to be getting cheaper. If the savings will be substantial I may consider it.
E6600's going to drop like $30 from it's current price.
Q6600's going to drop around $240. They were in the $900s when they first came out. Q2 dropped to $550 or so. Q3 would be $266.
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As it is, I'm already reluctant to splurge on the E6600, so I know I certainly won't want to shell out for the Q6600. It'll most likely be close to $400 in Canada even after the price drop. I think my plans are stuck at:

$199.99 - G.Skill F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
$154.99 - Asus P5B-Plus
$189.99 - Core 2 Duo E6320
$544.97

I skimped a bit on the processor, but hopefully the re-allocation of funds will prove well in terms of rock solid motherboard and memory. I'm hoping I can price-beat some stuff with a local shop of mine, so I'll get a bit more of a discount, but I think the end result will be adequate. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Sounds good.I am not to familiar with the P5B Plus but has to be a bit better then the P5B E I use.Good Luck with the build.
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Basically, if you're not going to be willing to go to $260 for the Q6600, you might as well stay low and go with a 6320/6420.

As long as you get some decent ram, 3.4GHZ will be no problem.

There's a huge misconception with E6600's. On Air people assume they can easily hit 3.4-3.6. That's not really the case. On Engineering samples, B weeks it was, but with L steppings and the most recent batches, 3.2-3.4 on air is the ceiling most times.

I had my doubts about the 6x20's a couple weeks ago, but recent samples have made me believe they're champions, they just run a couple C hotter than their little 2mb L2 brothers.

I recommend you pick up a 6420 for the extra multiplier, some G.Skill HZ ram or whatever the cheapest 2GB Micron D9 kit is you can get, and pick up a Gigabyte P35-DS3R.

Motherboard - $140 USD
Ram - $110-130 USD
Processor - $185 USD

Puts you under budget and you can spend the rest on the cooling to secure your 3.4-3.5 over-clock.

At that point, I recommend either a budget value cooler like the Freezer 7 Pro or Cooler Master Hyper TX. But if you want to spend the big bucks, I've heard nothing but great things about the Tuniq Tower 120.
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There's a huge misconception with E6600's. On Air people assume they can easily hit 3.4-3.6. That's not really the case. On Engineering samples, B weeks it was, but with L steppings and the most recent batches, 3.2-3.4 on air is the ceiling most times.
Huge misconception? Perhaps you still don't know what you're talking about (though I know you don't, obviously).

But with an E6600, 3.60ghz it's easy to achieve, here, enjoy:

__________, Link: 3DM'06__________



Please refer to this post: http://www.overclock.net/2273215-post82.html

So, what would you call that on air? A misconception to be an assumption that's not really a case?........I wouldn't say it.
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