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yeah, its when you remove the IHS from the core, it gives you better contact with the core => better temps. im doing like 1.5v and im only at 39º load.
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Do you wanna get rid of it ???
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hhaahaa. anyone know anyone with a 939 chip?
*cough*

Get the 165, you know you want to!
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I had an AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo Core Processor, I got it up to 2.6GHz with stock voltage 24/7. I ran like 27C idle on a 100% stock Thermaltake Big Typhoon applied with Arctic Silver 5.

The 4400+ had more cache than the lower models, however, the 4600+ and 4800+ had an equal amount of cache, so don't waste money on those. Or, get an Opteron.

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Opterons are basically the same thing as normal chips, but are made more durable, for servers. So the extra cost goes into the durability and overclockability.
Opterons are made on the same wafers as X2s, so please describe how they're made any differently. Also, what extra cost are you referring to? If they're made on the same wafer, they would have the same unit cost as every other IC on the wafer.
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Look you have a 2.8ghz single core. Buying another single core, even one that might hit 3ghz is a complete waste of time and money. Go dual core or stick with what you have
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Opterons are made on the same wafers as X2s, so please describe how they're made any differently. Also, what extra cost are you referring to? If they're made on the same wafer, they would have the same unit cost as every other IC on the wafer.
Essentially, they are 'cherry-picked" for stability. Which usually but not always translates to more predictable overclocking (It's very rare to find an Opteron that OCs more than 100Mhz above or below the average for that stepping.)
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Just go X2 3800+, it's $80 OEM if you can't afford the $104 Opteron 165. There's no point to "upgrade" to another single core from a Venice unless you have a Sempron, which you don't.

X2 3800+: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103052

Opteron 165: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103588
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Essentially, they are 'cherry-picked" for stability. Which usually but not always translates to more predictable overclocking (It's very rare to find an Opteron that OCs more than 100Mhz above or below the average for that stepping.)
You're stating that the Opterons are "cherry picked", but what are you basing this on? Can you provide anything even remotely backing up that statement? This conversion has occurred several times and nobody has ever been able to backup any of the wild rumors that involve the Opterons for socket 939. Also, if you're stating that these chips are simply cherry picked to be sold under the Opteron moniker, I'd be interested to hear your reasoning that an Opteron performs slightly slower than an X2 at equal clock speeds.
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post #30 of 45
IMO the only difference is the memory controller - in a server environment you don't need uber timings, and the looser controller = better stability.

This is also better for us OC'ers, but i LOL at the fact that they are not only "Hand picked from the wafer" but also cut "from the centre of the wafer" at the same time
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