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My friend demands me to build him a C2D system out of $800. I'll do it, but how are the E4300s?

He's on a P4, and what big of a difference would be be seeing if he were to get the E2140 or E2160?
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My friend demands me to build him a C2D system out of $800. I'll do it, but how are the E4300s?

He's on a P4, and what big of a difference would be be seeing if he were to get the E2140 or E2160?
Go for the e2160, the difference would be minimal and only noticable in games, usually 2-9FPS behind the e4300. Also, they are GREAT oc'ers, on air they approach or surpass 3GHZ without problems plus they have a 9x multy, so expensive ram won't be needed.
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Originally Posted by TaiDinh View Post
My friend demands me to build him a C2D system out of $800. I'll do it, but how are the E4300s?

He's on a P4, and what big of a difference would be be seeing if he were to get the E2140 or E2160?
From the benchmarks I have seen from the 2160's there is very little difference.. A 4300 at 3.2Ghz performed roughly the same as a 2160 at 3.2Ghz.. I have only seen 1 2160's benchmark results and compared them to my 4300 at the same speeds..

Still there is not enough feedback yet to say that the 2160's are consistant oc'ers.. But past performance from the C2D line makes me think they will mostly be good oc'ers..

I would prob. save a little bit of money and get the 2160 with a good 965P motherboard..
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get the e2160
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the extra cache is good for games, 4300 IMO. i had it for awhile, good chip. i swapped my dads proc for it so i could get a better oc.
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id go for e2160
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Seems like you guys prefer E2160 over the E4300 so far.
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the extra cache is good for games, 4300 IMO. i had it for awhile, good chip. i swapped my dads proc for it so i could get a better oc.
True, but the difference is minimal.
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Originally Posted by TaiDinh View Post
My friend demands me to build him a C2D system out of $800. I'll do it, but how are the E4300s?

He's on a P4, and what big of a difference would be be seeing if he were to get the E2140 or E2160?
Heres a really good review from Xbitlabs might help you out.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...ium-e2160.html


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The same situation takes place during audio encoding. However, this time the performance difference approaches 5% and is primarily noticed when we move from 2MB L2 cache to only 1MB.

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Microsoft Office Word 2007 loses a lot of speed when the L2 cache gets smaller. Moreover, if the CPU with a 2MB L2 cache is only 5% slower than its counterpart with a 4MB L2 cache, then further L2 cache size reduction results in a 15-16% performance drop compared with the “fully-fledged†CPU.

(this one goes to the AMD guys )

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We have already mentioned earlier in this article that reduced to 1MB L2 cache is a significant slowdown for the Pentium E2000 series in gaming applications. Judging by the results of our comparative tests we see another proof to that point. Although Pentium E2000 processors outperform Pentium D 935 and Pentium D 925, they are still unable to reach the performance level of Athlon 64 X2 3800+ and 3600+. I have to draw your attention to the fact that this whole situation is pretty funny: games are actually almost the only application where the youngest CPUs with Core micro-architecture cannot even dream of competing with their immediate rivals.
The e2160 really shows how crippled(yes CRIPPLED... especially when an athlon x2 gives it a consistent spanking) a 1mb cache chip is when compared to a 2mb or worse yet 4mb chip. IMHO (and I'm not saying this b/c I own one) I would go with the e4300, its only ~$20 more expensive and will not likely put you over budget.

I included some of my more recent OC bench marks with the e4300 on a P965 chipset board(quadgt)... I imagine a P35 chipset board would at least match if not improve upon those #s. Not to mention the exact same g.skill HZs I bought for 199 are now friggin 110 ...

Anyway GL deciding


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The e2160 really shows how crippled(yes CRIPPLED... especially when an athlon x2 gives it a consistent spanking) a 1mb cache chip is when compared to a 2mb or worse yet 4mb chip. IMHO (and I'm not saying this b/c I own one) I would go with the e4300, its only ~$20 more expensive and will not likely put you over budget.

I included some of my more recent OC bench marks with the e4300 on a P965 chipset board(quadgt)... I imagine a P35 chipset board would at least match if not improve upon those #s. Not to mention the exact same g.skill HZs I bought for 199 are now friggin 110 ...

Anyway GL deciding
That's at stock though, when you overclock the e2160, it outperforms a stock Core 2 Extreme X6800 in most of the tests.



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