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Let me say this loud and clear for all of you that really want to spend the money that is burning a hole in your pockets....


It doesn't matter if you get 105 FPS or 31 FPS. As long as you don't go below 30 FPS you are at your eye's maximum FPS. My system gets no less than 35 FPS in any game that I play at the highest resolution that my 19inch widescreen monitor can handle which is 1440x900 @ the highest AA and AF for my X1900 card without missing a beat.

I know what your going to say...35 FPS is low..(Yes, but when you consider that my graphic's card AI is working the overall load of the card so that it doesn't over power it's self by running at 49 FPS all the time for no apparent reason causing overheating and then crashes, I would take the 35 FPS anyday.) Sit back and think about how many games you have totally maxed your CPU out on vs. how much money you spent on WATER COOLING for your special E6600 and then ask yourself...was it worth the extra $350 just to get the extra 1.5GHz out of a CPU?

I don't care what people say, but when I can run every game I own at max resolution and graphics at my eyes maximum FPS recognition, there is no point in owning a CPU that can overclock to 3.6GHz except for show and tell.
Sorry but I'm not looking for any fights, this is just what I think.
umm dude I think its more like 60fps is what makes it so that you dont notice, anything lower can give people headaches and stuff liek that from what I have gathered from many people that have gotten into this before



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35 seconds is nothing special.....my X2 4200 can load maps just as fast and it's not a Core2Duo. Also, for overall performance you probably wont see much difference in gameplay going from the Core2Duo to the X2 series AMD processors but if you get a good graphics card, it doesn't matter what brand of processor you have...

For real world performance go with AMD but if all you want to do is overclock like mad and get 14 second super PI times, go with Intel. My 2 cents for the night.
and you have obviously not tried both head to head have you, I have ran opti 148,144,170, x2 4400 am2 1210,3800, 5000 (or whatever it was) and intel p4 2.4 533 (old school) and none of these in real world or benchmarks compares to my c2d guys that I have oced including the 6400,4300,6600, so please dont post just a bunch of bull.

The only thing that was close in real world performance that you may notice is running something like a opti170 at 3.0ghz to a stock 4300 at 1.8 ghz, sure that may not be that big of a difference.
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Here is a good article which explains what you said about what the human eye can detect (you were right)...

http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_1.html
    
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Here is a good article which explains what you said about what the human eye can detect (you were right)...

http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_1.html
Alot of other people were right, there was a big thread/flame war on here a while ago where alot of people really put up alot of good info on this stuff, way over my head. I think that was the one big thing I remembered from the whole thread (I guess the most important).
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amd does make great cpu's, and owning one will not make you "slow"
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No not at all, I loved my amd guys ecspecially my 939 dual cores, they could take alot of voltage and abuse and they were fun to overclock. Its just the results on phase werent all that. Really they do perform very well and I wouldnt be to mad about having to use one if paired with the right ram and vid card.

I still have my dfi sli-d, I jsut cant part with it and enough for one rig of 939 stuff.
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amd does make great cpu's, and owning one will not make you "slow"
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i bought my brisbane 3600+ for my son after my 6400 (budget processors amd ftw)
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Let me say this loud and clear for all of you that really want to spend the money that is burning a hole in your pockets....


It doesn't matter if you get 105 FPS or 31 FPS. As long as you don't go below 30 FPS you are at your eye's maximum FPS. My system gets no less than 35 FPS in any game that I play at the highest resolution that my 19inch widescreen monitor can handle which is 1440x900 @ the highest AA and AF for my X1900 card without missing a beat.

I know what your going to say...35 FPS is low..(Yes, but when you consider that my graphic's card AI is working the overall load of the card so that it doesn't over power it's self by running at 49 FPS all the time for no apparent reason causing overheating and then crashes, I would take the 35 FPS anyday.) Sit back and think about how many games you have totally maxed your CPU out on vs. how much money you spent on WATER COOLING for your special E6600 and then ask yourself...was it worth the extra $350 just to get the extra 1.5GHz out of a CPU?

I don't care what people say, but when I can run every game I own at max resolution and graphics at my eyes maximum FPS recognition, there is no point in owning a CPU that can overclock to 3.6GHz except for show and tell.
Sorry but I'm not looking for any fights, this is just what I think.
just to clue you in though real world isn't just gaming and only gaming. and your eyes can tell the difference above 30fps. and mysetup is a little better then yours I would say and I have seen games drop below 30fps a few times when running 1280*1024. and what is this AI stuff that makes your video card run slower then full speed stuff? plus whats wrong with a little extra head room.
now comes some other things. video editing, any kind of number crunching, encryption doing encrypting or compressing of files, or any other numerous task that are not just games. you honestly believe AMD is on part with the c2d with those things and that your video card is going to make all the difference?
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Alot of other people were right, there was a big thread/flame war on here a while ago where alot of people really put up alot of good info on this stuff, way over my head. I think that was the one big thing I remembered from the whole thread (I guess the most important).
there is a program out there that will run two moving images side by side at different frame rates and shows how the eye can detect things way above frame rates you see on tv at the measly 30fps they show there. but tv cheats and uses motion blur.
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I went from a Athlon XP 2000+ @ 1.6GHz to a E4300 @ 3GHz. Massive difference!
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