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Hello, I just reformatted yesterday and figured I'd try SMP folding. I followed this guide and thought I had it working.

1. Installed Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0
2. Created password for my login
3. Ran install batch file then fah.exe (pictured here)

But I made it start as a service, was that a wrong choice? I don't want to have to click it every time my computer starts and I don't want to have a window open in my taskbar constantly. At the moment I'm only loading ~30% on one core (after rebooting), that's it.

I found a similar thread here:
http://www.overclock.net/overclock-n...ight-help.html

...but I don't have wifi and my internet connect is fine. No one else is using the internet in the house. How can I get SMP to run 100% load all the time on both cores?
    
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Bump, i'm having a similar problem. Would be nice if there were some solutions.
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First the bad news....

Windows SMP folding is not supported as a service at this time. Yes, there is the option there, but it does not work correctly.

The good news...
You can disable the service, and then just run it manually each time you log in. I know this is not what you wanted, but it is one way to make it work.

There is another option that is not supported directly by stanford at this time, but it has been proven to work by win SMP folders on the Stanford Forums. Stanford hopes to have the service working correctly in the next release, but for now try it. This is only the first post of the thread, so if you need more info, follow the link and there are many more posts on the subject.

http://forum.folding-community.org/v...ic.php?t=20147

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Don't know if it's 100% Kosher, but one of my teammates found a way to run the Windows SMP client as a service & claims to have been doing so for over a month now without a lick of trouble. I just tried it out on my own Athlon X2 4400 system & it seems to be working just fine for me as well. To test it, I created a new user account, logged off my account, logged into the new account in which the WinSMP Client continued to run, I then rebooted the PC from the new account. Upon restarting, the WinSMP client started up just like the non SMP clients in service mode.

Key points:
1> .net 2.0 & Windows SMP Client must be installed from the same account with full administrator privelages.
2> using the -configonly flag, say "yes" to services question & configure everything else as you normaly would.
3> Open the services control pannel, go to the new FAH WinSMP service & open the properties for it & click the log on tab. Select Log On As: This Account (instead of Local System Account), put the user name for the account under which .net 2.0 & WinSMP client were installed & enter the password.
4> Reboot & WinSMP client will automaticly start in service mode.

NOTE: although it appears to be working just fine, I have no way of knowing if there is something going on in the background which may cause problems. Until Stanford can verify that this method works properly, I would not advise running the Windows SMP client as a service unless you’re well prepared to do your own troubleshooting…
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Ok I figured how to get it to run 100% all the time thanks to this post:
http://www.overclock.net/1945264-post19.html
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I think if you look at the known issues, they say Windows SMP is known to have problems starting up automatically as a service. It will start, sort of, but use only like 30-40% cpu. I think alot of people just start it up manually after they boot up to run it at 100%. Maybe they will fix this on a newer version soon.

If you want it to start up automatically though, it's pretty easy to do. Just create a shortcut to fah.exe on your desktop or wherever. Then just drag that shortcut into your Startmenu--->All Programs--->Startup. Then when your computer boots up, it will run it automatically, and it will then run at 100% utilization no problem . I would probably also then delete your client.cfg in the Folding folder, and redo your settings, telling it to remove itself as a service. If you delete only the client.cfg file, you can redo all your settings again, without losing any of your current work.

Now after you do this, it will bring the window for it opened up on your desktop after bootup, and you will have to minimize it. There's an easy fix for this also, just go to that particular shortcut you previously placed in the Startup folder. Right click on that, and click properties. Under the Shortcut tab, where it says Run, change that to minimized and click apply. Now when the computer boots, it will start it up at 100%, plus minimize it for you as well .

Sorry though, I'm not sure if it's possible, to make it not show up at least as a minimized app on the taskbar . Maybe someone knows of a way, but as far as I know, if you close the app, it stops. I guess it wouldn't really bother me to have it minimized on the taskbar, maybe another thing they'll fix on future release and make it run more stealthy??
In other words, uninstall F@H and when you reinstall and run fah.exe this time make sure you don't run it as a service.

My next issue was getting it to run 100% by itself when I booted without having to type in a password. I found this:
http://www.overclock.net/1969563-post27.html
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Well you will have to put a password.

But if you don't want to input a password every time you start the computer, you can do the following:

Start > Run > control userpasswords2
Uncheck the checkbox

and it will ask you the account which you want it to auto login to.
The only problem with doing that ^ is when you hit the desktop you're logged in as administrator instead of your username (in my case Transonic). Mine doesn't "ask you the account which you want it to auto login to" as mentioned in this post. Is there a way to make so you automatically log in as your username rather than administrator?
    
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Ok I figured how to get it to run 100% all the time thanks to this post:
http://www.overclock.net/1945264-post19.html
In other words, uninstall F@H and when you reinstall and run fah.exe this time make sure you don't run it as a service.

My next issue was getting it to run 100% by itself when I booted without having to type in a password. I found this:
http://www.overclock.net/1969563-post27.html


The only problem with doing that ^ is when you hit the desktop you're logged in as administrator instead of your username (in my case Transonic). Mine doesn't "ask you the account which you want it to auto login to" as mentioned in this post. Is there a way to make so you automatically log in as your username rather than administrator?
Good I'm glad you found it, older post in a multi page thread can be like a needle in a haystack . Very easy way , it's like starting it manually....yet....automatic . Works perfectly, will always go to 100% no worries, and simple as pie, exactly how I like solutions to be. Tell it to minimize it as well, and no diff between that, or starting as service, like a glass half full or empty thing (except for the fact that the startup way actually works , unlike the service way ). But yes, like you say, don't forget to redo your client.cfg to not start it as a service. The startup menu will do it now, and you don't want conflict with them both trying to start it up.

Just read that other way of doing it, those guys seem really fixated on having it be an actual service. Didn't go and read the link though, so I don't know their reasons. I guess that may work too, but seems complicated and like I say, why does it have to be a service exactly? I look at it like this--it's just an executable...so execute it . That's what the startup folder is for, to execute any program placed there on boot. That's why I thought of doing it that way, I was like "hey, it's just an .exe, I'll just throw a shortcut to it in startup." I don't know why they don't also do it this way, so easy, is it one of those "right under your nose" so they don't think of it things? Or maybe I'm missing some reason it should be an actual service.

Also Transonic, about what you said, about uninstalling fah. Ya you can do that, but if you want to keep all your work and stuff, like I said only delete the client.cfg file itself. Then when you run FAH.exe again, it goes through all the setup questions again, then starts right back where you left off from your last checkpoint, on your current WU. No work or progress lost that way, as far as I know, other than minutes since your last checkpoint that is .
    
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