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post #11 of 23
I your not going to game then get Dual 8500gt's And buy cooling and you can probbly get them up to about 620 core and 950Mem... NEVER buy a 8500gt if you game....they suck...but 2 or them oc'ed real good is nice.
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post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by Ninja_Boy View Post
Case - Thermaltake Armor VA8000BWS Black Full
Mobo - Asus P5N32-E nForce 680i Motherboard
Video - EVGA GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB
Sound - bluegears b-Enspirer
Mem - 4x1GB of G. Skill DDR2-800
CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
PSU - PC Power & Cooling 750 Silencer
HDDs - 2x150GB Raptors; 2x250GB Caviars
DVD-RW - Samsung S-ATA Burner
DVD-RW - Samsung S-ATA Burner
CPU Cooler - Tuniq Tower 120

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I agree with ninja, that setup is fantastic, but change the processor to a quad.
    
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post #14 of 23
Thats a waste. A single 8600gts for the same price. would outperform those 2 sli'd, and still have room for upgrades
post #15 of 23
hmmm maybe...but those would be funner to OC than a 8600gts. But they do suck dont get me wrong I dont like 8500gt.
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post #16 of 23
hah better yet buy a 8600gts and those coolers...
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post #17 of 23
Why tell him to go with a graphics card that will be outdated before the end of the summer comes? If the kid is willing to spend the money let him buy the 8800gtx and maybe he will start to game... If he has $3,200 laying I would say do with the 680i, Quad Core processor and the 8800gtx. I am not a fan of buying a computer just to get by with, if you have the money and you are willing to spend it, go with nice components that will last at least two years. For my own computer, I plan on doing a complete overhaul once the next generation games finally start to come out (the good ones)....I'm thinking $1,500 should be a nice start once I get the $5,600 payed off for the first 3 months of college next year...ouch is right. After using my Acer 19 inch widescreen monitor for a year I want to buy a 24"-26" to replace it or dual up.
    
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post #18 of 23
Ok. ok. im sorry Buy a 8800 then.
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post #19 of 23
Guys, stop giving bad advice. There needs to be some serious cleaning up on these forums.

First- There's maybe... 1% of the current programs out there supporting quad core architecture. You're lucky to find programs that support dual core. If you plan on over-clocking, your money will be better spent on better cooling, because the E6600's run REALLY hot over-clocked. E6420's and E6320's actually run about the same as E6600's in newer weeks. A quad core at this point will be wasted if you don't game and play newer games. Unless you do some very extreme auto-cading and encoding and rendering, you won't see a benefit in quad versus dual.

If anything, a dual can clock higher than a quad and would give the dual a benefit. Check Tomshardware or Anandtech, whichever reviewed the QX6800. It was basically neck and neck with the X6800 with only a FEW programs showing improvement with quad. With rendering, encoding and various other work-station tasks, the X6800 was virtually the same.

Second- Unless you jump into an 8800GTS/GTX, you won't really see any rendering or workstation performance jumps that are worth noting, but the 8500GT is a crummy card regardless, especially in a "fairly expensive" build. I recommend at the very least, an 8600GTS with a strong recommendation of getting an 8800GTS 320mb version. You'll see a huge improvement and your system will have some future proofing to it. No need for 640mb, as a casual gamer has no need for massive frame buffer. VRAM in rendering isn't as crucial as the core's power, and while there's some benefit to having more VRAM with rendering, the gain doesn't outweigh the cost.

Third- That virtual hard drive thing is basically a gimmick, not worth getting. You'll get surreal fast loading times and access times with a simple Raptor, and you don't need anything faster than a 74GB Raptor for your programs. Seriously, when have you ever had more than 40-50GB of software? I'm a writer, do some encoding and video-editing and a heavy gamer, and the MOST I've seen on my software drive was 45GB of programs. (3d Studio Max, Maya, Adobe Premier, AutoCAD, Office, Open Office, Fruity Loops, VEGAS, Acid Pro, a bunch of games) I think you'd see more out of getting good ram, a good raptor drive, and using the rest of your saved funds on your video-card improvement.

This is my short list for you.
*Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 2.13GHZ $186.00
*G.Skill DDR2 800 2GB HZ kit $109.99
*ASUS P5K Deluxe $224.99
*Western Digital Raptor X 74GB 10,000RPM $154.99
*Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB $69.99
*EVGA 8800GTS 320mb $279.99
*Silverstone OP650 Olympia 650 watt power supply $139.99

At that point, you can pick your case, software, etc. With this set up, you get the benefit of a strong running system that can overclock really well, can give you the performance you want in every aspect and has some future proof to it.

I recommend picking up a good cooler if you want to over-clock, or you might even want to consider going water-cooling to guarantee you get the performance you want with the security of good cooling to keep it stable.
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post #20 of 23
Hmm I agree on almost everything NamelessMC put up except the video card. Step up and be a man, get the GTX like you wanted to originally.

Also I like your idea of 2x320GB Hard Drives. From my experiences Raptors are nice, but I'd rather have more space. If you really need the speed and don't mind installing everything to different drives then get the Raptor. I have tons of home video and a backup of almost every CD i've owned since 1998.

Most people never hit 74GB in programs and saving documents to a different drive is easy to setup in both XP and Vista by simply right clicking the My Documents folder, selecting Properties.., and then hit the Move button.

P.S. I have the OP650 it's a sweet PSU.
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