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post #11 of 29
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Wow, lots of good advice

So basically what I'm seeing is switch brands on the Ram, and the PSU... go with the 6420 instead of the 6600... use that money to grab the 640 MB Video Card, and an aftermarket heat sink....

I know nothing about aftermarket heat sinks... i've heard good things about the big typhoon is that a good one, or are there better for around the same price?
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post #12 of 29
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Oops, also pauldovi, you suggested different motherboard... you said that was a better motherboard... what exactly makes that one better, i'm kinda clueless about Mobos....
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post #13 of 29
Heres a 2 good heat sinks that will offer you great overclocking either will do,

http://www.jab-tech.com/Tuniq-Tower-...B-pr-3786.html

or

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21840

Good luck what ever you get dude.
    
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post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by P3rsian View Post
Oops, also pauldovi, you suggested different motherboard... you said that was a better motherboard... what exactly makes that one better, i'm kinda clueless about Mobos....
Well it is the new P35 northbridge with the new ICH9R southbridge. It should overclock better and run more stable that the P965 + ICH8R. Initial reviews seem extremely promising.

Review of the board:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200..._ga-p35-ds3r/1

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/513/1/
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post #15 of 29
BTW heres a good 8800GTS 640mb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130071

Hope you like it dude.
    
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post #16 of 29
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So, assuming I change the Mobo and Ram to the ones being suggested abd up the Video card to the 640mb version of the 8800, what specs of Power Supply am I looking at needing?
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post #17 of 29
I would go with a Seagate Barracuda Hard Drive.

The Hitatchi Deskstars run hot, and are kind of loud.

I suggest this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148140
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post #18 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by P3rsian View Post
So, assuming I change the Mobo and Ram to the ones being suggested abd up the Video card to the 640mb version of the 8800, what specs of Power Supply am I looking at needing?
The OP650 will be plenty of power. Very stable, good voltage control, and a very nice +12V Amp rating.

JonnyGuru (very well respected PSU reviewer) rated it a 9/10 and recommends it:

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyGuru
Let's go ahead and score this thing, starting with performance...
The ONLY knock on the performance of the Olympia OP650 is the low efficiency when the power supply was unrealistically crossloaded with a high +3.3V/+5V load and only 2A on the +12V. Other than that, efficiency was very good, there's active power factor correction, voltage regulation was very good, there was minimal ripple and noise and the unit was very quiet under 40�C.
Because the crossload that yielded the 73% was very unrealistic, I'm not going to hold it against it. In fact, I'm not going to hold much against this power supply. It scores a 10 for performance. That's makes up 40% of the score.
As for the functionality of this unit, we should take into consideration that it already has a correct 8-pin PCI-e connector on it, two of the 6-pin PCI-e connectors, 6 SATA, 6 peripheral connectors, the cables are fairly long. No, there aren't two 8-pin connectors or four 6-pin PCI-e connectors, but I think Silverstone is aware of the limitations of this unit as far as being able to put out enough power to support 8800GTX SLI or the forthcoming R600 Crossfire.
It is too bad that not all of the cables are sleeved, and that's a point against this unit. For functionality, I'm scoring this power supply an 8.5. This will make up 20% of the final score.
Now for aesthetics. Certainly, judging aesthetics is completely subjective. This is why it only makes up 10% of the final score.
The unit us compact and has a nice black finish. Nothing too shiny, no lights or anything and, like I said, not all of the cables are sleeved. I'll be giving the OP650 an 8 for aesthetics.
Finally, I'm going to judge the value of this unit. Basically, I'm going to look at what we have here in terms of performance and functionality and compare it against what I feel the product should sell for or what other products like it generally sell for. This makes up 30% of the final score.
Sundial Micro sells the OP650 for $129. Considering the Ultra X-Pro 600W and Seasonic S12 600W sells for $129 too, I'd say that puts the OP650 in VERY good company. You don't get modular cables, but you'd have to pay at least another $10 to $20 for that feature (Ultra X3 600W, Corsair HX620W or Seasonic M12 600W.) That means I'm going to give the OP650 a 9 for value!
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnyGURU
As if the Zeus product line wasn't proof enough, the Olympia OP650 is a sign that Silverstone is really taking high performance power supplies seriously. If you're looking for a basic power supply that has great voltage regulation, good efficiency and plenty of power for most SLI machines that won't break the bank, the OP650 should be on your short list.
The Good....
  • Excellent voltage regulation
  • R600 and G90 ready with 8-pin PCI-e connector
  • Quiet
  • Active Power Factor Correction
  • Very good efficiency
  • Minimal ripple/noise
The Bad....
  • Nothing really bad to say
The Mediocre....
  • Not too flashy
  • Would like to see ALL of the cables sleeved
Complete review here:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_deta...100&page_num=1
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post #19 of 29
Thread Starter 
thanks for finding those reviews for me...

is there any way of being able to tell what kind of power supply is going to be needed to be able to power your computer with stability?

Also, any thoughts on getting a lower voltage one, and then rigging a 2nd power supply to run things like hard drives and DVD drives?
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Silverstone OP650 Thermaltake Shark 
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post #20 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by P3rsian View Post
thanks for finding those reviews for me...

is there any way of being able to tell what kind of power supply is going to be needed to be able to power your computer with stability?

Also, any thoughts on getting a lower voltage one, and then rigging a 2nd power supply to run things like hard drives and DVD drives?
I think you mean lower amperage?

That is not really a good idea.

The important things to look at in a power supply is its amperage / temperature / voltage control / and variance.

You can only really get the voltage control / variance from a good reviewer like JonnyGURU.

A good power supply will have a high single +12V rail (like the OP650 / OP750 / Silencer 750).

Your potential system will draw less than 300 watts of power and probably around 20 amps MAX on the +12V line. The OP650 will be plenty of power for you.
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