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post #11 of 29
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Well, in short, fans. ( I guess my fan models aren’t clear, they’re the turquoise things) Currently there 5 120mm, 120cfm’s, that’s two “push pull†2 fan/rad set ups vacuuming the guts out @ 120cfm+ each. Then there is another 120 CFM fan blowing directly down on the PCI end of the m-board. To balance it all out ( currently 2 fans/setups blowing out, 1 blowing in) I’ll be strategically placing either another fan (blowing in) or perforations to balance it all out

Since both the main heat emitters (NB & CPU) are water-cooled, I don’t expect the m-board to be a big emitter in it self.

Do you have any reason to think that won’t suffice? Let me know, this is my first go at it.

Thanks Croak
Well, you should do a reverse airflow on this case, since you'll be water cooling. Have the fans on the radiators pulling air inside the case, then have another fan pushing air outside from the front or side. That should be good enough to keep the mobo/volt regs/etc cooled down.
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That looks so cool. What program did you use for the modeling?
Thanks, I used 3dstudio Max for modeling and Photoshop to annotate.

3d studio is way over kill, It just happens to be what I’ve worked with a lot. It works well here in that I can key in component dimensions for accuracy, group them into assemblies, and then freely drag’m around in 3d space.

3d studio max is pricey, and there are plenty of much cheaper programs that can easily do this remedial kind of stuff.

Thanx for the complement.

Croak

P.S Click my avatar, and you’ll see a 3ds Max under a slightly heavier load, still scratchn’ the surface thoughh.
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Well, you should do a reverse airflow on this case, since you'll be water cooling. Have the fans on the radiators pulling air inside the case, then have another fan pushing air outside from the front or side. That should be good enough to keep the mobo/volt regs/etc cooled down.

Well, as I see it, its a question of what does the least damage: (lets say I throw in another 120 cfm fan blowing into the case)

My scenario, where the rads are cooled by preheated air (from the guts), but the board is cooled with fresh air.

OR:

Your scenario, where the rads are cooled by fresh air, but the guts are cooled by preheated air (from the rads).

Six of one, half dozen of the other as I see it.. I think though the rads probably put off more heat (from the biggest offenders; CPU & NB) than the board, suggest my scenario might be better. If any body has a definitive reason why one is better than the other, I’m all ears

Thanx, Croak.

BTW: For me, running my rig in the raw on my desk (I.E. no case, everything hooked but splattered on my desk) I can touch every thing and I can honestly say at full load @ 3.4ghz nothing I can touch is more than luke warm.
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O,K...

RMA'd mobo couple weeks ago, got the another one back. Apparently 965 chipset was shot (northbridge ?) Strange because even @3.4 Ghz I never went over 62 c.

Any way, lost a little enthusiasm in that for this system I’ve had to RMA the MOBO, 250 gig drive, 2, 2gig memory kits, & more that I fortunately can’t recall. Not to mention the “flawless†20.1 inch monitor I got from some dick on ebay that arrived with a nice scratch in the middle of the screen.

Trying to fabricate some tight swept elbows off the CPU block to really make the install really slick

Later

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After frazzling a hard drive, killing my mboard (NB I think) screwed up memory, gouged my new flatscreen. Put it on the back-burner.

4 RMA's later stuck new mem. on and an air cooler tower, there it sits, raw board on my desk., been chugging away at 3.2 GHz for a year.

Took some time out, switched gears and focused on supercharging my Porsche (overclocking I guess) water /methanol injection cooled to...all done.

SO, the Rat Rig arises again. After screwing around trying plumb it without elbows I said f*&^ it. Did it quite nicely with 3 (elbows) tonight. 4 fans, 2 radiators, 2 hard drives, PWS, Gig DS3, XFX 7600 all stuffed in a mini AT case.

Pic's to follow

Regards, Croak
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Sorry to hear about your bad luck, but got any pics of the supercharger job?
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Sorry to hear about your bad luck, but got any pics of the supercharger job?
I'll see what I can dig up. Not a lot to see though in that the cars exterior is totally stock looking, almost a complete sleeper. All the go “fast stuff†is pretty tucked away and not terribly sexy, the motors in the middle.

Thanks for the condolences (for computer woes)

Regards, PK
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post #18 of 29
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Alright, all is fit to the original plan as illustrated in prior posts. Plumbings took a little doing but it's all in and routed for kink free articulation when it folds up. Still maintained the original baby AT box exterior & size and my new fabbed internal architecture/layout (like upside down mobo etc). DVD, fan conrols and on/off/reboot on small compact descktop box (the only things I'll use regularly... conviently placed.


Only 3, 90 degree elbows which will be eliminated as soon as I can fabricate some 90 degree sweeps. NB and CPU blocks cooling lines run in parallel so neither warms up the H2O for the other.

Going to fill up the h20 circuit tomorrow and begin testing. Fortunately my design keeps all but the cooling block connections away from anything not happy getting wet, Won't replace the mock-up MOBO till I know it runs dry (no leaks, no more RMA's).

Also attached, as requested, is Is my Project P-Car which I supercharged and otherwise moded mechanically after 4 critical RMA's on the Rat Rig (uncle). Had to move on for awhile, lick my wounds. Cars done so it's back to bytes and bits for awhile.


Opend up, all revealed. Mock PSU, MOBO, graphics card. Real rads, fans shrouds pump,plumbing etc. Hard drives fit in a cage between side case fan and PSU.


Back side, box closed up (no pinched or stressed H2O lines) Note double shrowed push pull fan on the top Black ice rad. fans are 125 cfm.



Veiw from the top with side pannel fold down & mobo exposed. Niceveiw of water blocks & plumbing.



As requested... Cute eh...till we meet at a stop light...supercharged, methanol injected, fully laptop programable auxilary ECU (engine controle unit).... Guess it's "overclocked"




More to come.


Regards, PK
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Thats what she said.
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