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AMD had 18.4% market share in 2004, 22% in Q2 2006, 26% in Q4 2006 and 19% in Q1 2007. Though there share has gone down I think that any statement that "Intel is dominating" is a little premature. Like all technology based markets the share follows technological innovation, or at least the consumers interpretation of innovation. Intel came up with a very good product and recovered share that it lost in 2006. Can AMD do the same? Probably. I have worked 30 years in the HDD industry and know that market share fluctuates greatly and unless a SUSTAINED trend is established over several quarters it is not indicative of market domination by any of the players.
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AMD had 18.4% market share in 2004, 22% in Q2 2006, 26% in Q4 2006 and 19% in Q1 2007. Though there share has gone down I think that any statement that "Intel is dominating" is a little premature.
It may come as a surprise for you but Intel's current market share is roughly 80%. I'd call that dominating.
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It may come as a surprise for you but Intel's current market share is roughly 80%. I'd call that dominating.
Agreed.

Also... I forget the EXACT #'s but Q1 of 2006 they had something ~180Million in profit, and Q1 '07 it was something rediculous like ~350Million net loss.
I would call that, AMD Pwnt.
    
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So did either of you even bother to read the post?
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and 19% in Q1 2007
Last time I checked 100 - 20 = 80.

Also P&L can be manipulated in many ways and can reflect such things as aquisitions, expansions etc. None of us have the entire but IMO it is no more a market domination now then it was a couple of years ago.
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So did either of you even bother to read the post? Last time I checked 100 - 20 = 80.

Also P&L can be manipulated in many ways and can reflect such things as aquisitions, expansions etc. None of us have the entire but IMO it is no more a market domination now then it was a couple of years ago.
I did read your post but it looks like you're trying to state that Intel shouldn't be regarded as being in a dominateing position just because they have a larger market share now. The thing is, Intel has maintained its foothold of 70% to 80% for the last 10 years at least. 80% of any market is quite a siazeable chunk in anyone's opinion, that's why I can't see how you can say Intel is dominating the market.
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I was addressing the numerous posts on this thread that are saying that AMD is going under because of intels market share. As you just stated Intel has had 70 to 80% for some time.....so why now is this the end of AMD?
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I did read your post but it looks like you're trying to state that Intel shouldn't be regarded as being in a dominateing position just because they have a larger market share now. The thing is, Intel has maintained its foothold of 70% to 80% for the last 10 years at least. 80% of any market is quite a siazeable chunk in anyone's opinion, that's why I can't see how you can say Intel is dominating the market.
So if it has been on top for so long why all of a sudden now is AMD in trouble? If they have always had 20% or so as you say why is now any different if they know their position and budget?
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So if it has been on top for so long why all of a sudden now is AMD in trouble? If they have always had 20% or so as you say why is now any different if they know their position and budget?
Have I stated that AMD is in trouble?

No.

Sorry if my comments caused any misunderstanding, I was merely pointing out that Intel have dominated the market for quite a long time as I was slighlty confused by Lancer's perception of "dominating". Though the reasons they dominated the market before were mainly down to the aggressive marketing of the Pentium brand name, in my opinion. Nowadays that's changed as the performance of the Core 2's speak for themselves, though Intel are still pushing their marketing aswell.

As for guessing AMD's financial position as it stands now, I'm a university student, not a market analyst, and with that in mind I'm going to decline to comment. However, I will reiterate my original post in this thread by saying that what I've seen so far with regards to AMD's K10 lineup doesn't impress me in the slightest.
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Dominating what market? Intels shares are only that high because they produce LOADS of different components, whilst AMD have less variety within their product line.
    
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This thread is WAY OT now!

I am really dissapointed thus far in what AMD has been showing...
And yet, still NOTHING new yet... for some real #'s...
    
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